I'll admit, I was one of those college girls who used to look down on the HS girls at the frat house. Some of them decided to rush sororities by the time they got to college, and they were blacklisted immediately. They were particularly interested in the locals because when I was there, AGD didn't really hold events with the local fraternity. I used to hang out there on the weekends because I was 19, they had free "beverages," and I was good friends with several of the brothers as my cousin is a member.

To the OP, regardless of how innocent you behave at the parties, that won't change how the girls will look at you. I know what it's like to be a 19 year old sorority girl who labels the HS girls "groupies". Don't be in such a rush to join the college world just because of high school drama because you know what? Drama follows you to college!

That said, we won't tell you to quit hanging out with your new guy friends at the house parties. However, are these guys worth jeopardizing your chances for rush next year? You'll make tons of new friends while you're in college. Don't just limit yourself to this one group.

Cosign.

And to answer your primary question (which most everyone else has), I have seen PNMs released for doing these activities just in the summer preceding freshman year. I can only imagine what a whole year's worth of partying and hanging out at fraternity houses would do.

I hate to go all James on everyone....buuuut...

Can anyone really see a group of college guys wanting to be friends with a highschool girl for honorable reasons?? Honestly???

I'm totally with you on this one.... and I can't say I've had personal experience with the whole "high school girls hanging out w/ college fraternity guys" thing... but I think I'd probably see them as groupies too regardless of not getting physical with them or partying too much.

Soooo if you're "sick of HS drama" why would you want to go to school where your classmates are going? Maybe I misunderstood that... but it sounds like a school where lots of ppl from your HS are going? Even if you move clear across the country, there is always drama in college.

Just a thought.

I have also seen PNMs released for their summer activities-- they come up as first semester freshmen in the summertime. The campus is quiet, but the fraternity houses are still open, there are casual parties and nights out-- but just hanging out at the fraternity houses, I have seen those girls do and say things that has come back to bite them in the butt at recruitment time. And some of the girls probably didn't say or do anything-- they just created an unintentional perception that followed them to recruitment.

I hate to generalize, but you really have blown it if you're a senior in high school and you're already the fraternity house groupie... Guys talk, girls talk, people just start thinking things... High school drama has nothing on college. And the drama exists in the working world, too. You can't escape it. I think people are best off flying in under the radar.

I really think a PNM's best shot is go in as a first semester freshman with a clean, drama-free slate where you don't have any war stories to be shared and everyone sees you as a ladylike superstar with a lot to offer.

Sad to say but NO.
As Jimmy Buffet wrote: "Fins to the left, fins to the right, your the only game in town." Or something close to that. Next on Singing Bee.....;)

Back to the point, this unfortunately is like upper class men and freshman women. And I posted about my own chapter about that awhile ago in RM.:(

The OP, IMVHO, should stay clear of any male living/social group.

And OP, write John ASAP and have your name changed if that is your real name.

So is it possible that the OP is not the real Renee but one of those dastardly high school girls trying to ruin her chances at recruitment? This whole post smells fishy to me....

Sounds like a plan hatched by one of Batman's enemies! It's crazy....but it just might work!!!!:mad:

Diabolical!

No...add a shark and some honey....THAT would be diabolical!

Someone beat me to the reality check. :)

Everyone's situation is by definition unique, and human relationships can be complex . . .

However, the OP has to be aware that there are a lot of guys with very little . . uhm . . . whats the word? Scruples?

So there might be a lot of guys in the house that will regard you as a little sister type to be protected and amused, but there are also a lot of dorky desperate guys that will take whatever they think you are freely offering.

And fraternities in general seem to attract more than their fair share of dorky desperate guys.

Also, if you are thinking of the future, a lot of higher status males won't want much to do with you if you have been passed around 2 or 3 of their brothers, especially if those brothers are much lower on the social totem poll than they are, which is probably the case if they are messing with someone still more or less in high school.

I have seen that happen where an otherwise pretty, intelligent girl will be skipped over by guys because of who she used to date or fool around with.

As far as how it will hurt your Rush . . . Come on. You are a girl. You know the deal. Girls are looking for reasons to love or hate you. Hanging out and partying with boys they know (and maybe sort of regard as theirs) seems to always get negative feedback.

:confused::confused:
I would under stand shark and blood or bees and honey or even bears and honey.
But Shark and honey???:confused:
Lost or missing something there.

And I am not sure that this thread from the OP is a tall tail.
Could be wrong, hoping that I am not.

I would add to your list: Silver Tonged Devils.

It doesn't make sense, but neither did any of the plots to kill Batman! Just random things that would take a miracle to work.

Also...Does anyone remember the game, Scruples? It's a great drinking game...my friend had an old one but it was missing many of the questions. I wish I could find a complete one!

Or maybe I'm mixing two plots...I'm starting to remember something about Shark Repellent...