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cutie_cat_4ever 09-13-2007 09:17 AM

Gosh, what's up with all the heli-moms lately?? Seriously, it pisses me off to see crazy moms like that....why??

AlphaFrog 09-13-2007 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever (Post 1518488)
Gosh, what's up with all the heli-moms lately?? Seriously, it pisses me off to see crazy moms like that....why??

I'm less sick of the helimoms than those that keep crying that we're a big bunch of meanies who need to be nicer. We usually get a few each year that end up taking their ball and going home, but it seems like there's been a huge influx of those lately. And, honestly, it seems like it's those people who have been more or less respectfully corrected that go off the deep end. Those who receive full-on snark have just laughed it off like the rest of us.

_Lisa_ 09-13-2007 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1518489)
And, honestly, it seems like it's those people who have been more or less respectfully corrected that go off the deep end. Those who receive full-on snark have just laughed it off like the rest of us.


Maybe its a sign that we should stop being nice? :p

cutie_cat_4ever 09-13-2007 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1518489)
I'm less sick of the helimoms than those that keep crying that we're a big bunch of meanies who need to be nicer. We usually get a few each year that end up taking their ball and going home, but it seems like there's been a huge influx of those lately. And, honestly, it seems like it's those people who have been more or less respectfully corrected that go off the deep end. Those who receive full-on snark have just laughed it off like the rest of us.

Well, hopefully when recruitment ends (which I assume most schools are) things should die down...

What's even worse is helimoms crying that GC is full of meanies and tell people to get a life...lol...I mean, didn't the helimoms use to have their own fourms they can go to?

Benzgirl 09-13-2007 11:44 AM

Do we know what university? It was just announced that one of our chapters is closing.

WarEagle07 09-13-2007 11:56 AM

The helicoptering phenomenon is often a team effort. The child allows the parent to continue to cross normal parental boundaries because in the end the child gets what they wanted. If the child were to ask the parent to stop interfering then suddenly this child would be left to live by their own merit and could potentially face disappointment. It all goes back to doing what is right -v- doing what is easy. Crying to mom, knowing mom will take matters into her own hands, is all too easy.

AlphaFrog 09-13-2007 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 1518486)
AlphaFrog...what did your mom hope to accomplish with the angry letter to HQ? Was it just to let off steam, or did she petition for the chapter to stay open?

She was petitioning for the chapter to stay open. It actually wasn't "angry" as much as a huge list of reasons why the chapter should stay open. There was definitely an overtone of resentment, but for the most part, it was reasonable.

Helicopter1 09-13-2007 12:59 PM

WarEagle07, you hit it on the head.

That's happened to me, and to others that I know...we commiserate, and we try to resist the next time. It ain't easy.

And for the record, the only time I've felt REALLY insulted here was when someone thought I was that BA person.

Also, I thought HPRL was a state of mind. I don't want to go there. I am already on this site waaaaaay more than I should be.

Plus, it looks like I'm stuck with my user name. That's what happens when you try to be funny.

bejazd 09-13-2007 12:59 PM

Now, I'm sorta sittin on the fence on this one. Seems like people on both sides of this one are getting a little outta hand. People need to be able to come on here and ask their question (even if its dumb) without being feasted upon by the sharks. If you don't like the question help them re-phrase it , point them in a direction to another thread or just ignore it. Just because you're a parent with a question doesn't make you a helicopter parent per se.

On the other side, parents, if your kid is going to go to college and join a fraternity or sorority, understand first that this is going to be an experience that you are going to have very little involvement in, even if you are writing the checks. It's their thing, let them choose their own friends and live with the choices they make. Love 'em, support 'em, cheer 'em on no matter what, and have a nice glass of punch on parents weekend. That's about the extent of it!

SydneyK 09-13-2007 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WarEagle07 (Post 1518614)
The helicoptering phenomenon is often a team effort. The child allows the parent to continue to cross normal parental boundaries because in the end the child gets what they wanted. If the child were to ask the parent to stop interfering then suddenly this child would be left to live by their own merit and could potentially face disappointment. It all goes back to doing what is right -v- doing what is easy. Crying to mom, knowing mom will take matters into her own hands, is all too easy.

I don't think it's entirely fair to hold children responsible for the parenting techniques their parents choose. My guess is that most heli-kids don't realize the extent to which their parents are hovering. It isn't that these kids aren't bright or observant people; it's that that's just what they think parents' jobs are... because that's all they've known. So, while it is ultimately the kids' responsibility to ask the appropriate people the appropriate questions at the appropriate times, if they've NEVER had the chance to do that, it's no wonder they're lost. And, IMHO, there's no one to blame but their parents for putting them in that position.

WarEagle07 09-13-2007 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 1518698)
I don't think it's entirely fair to hold children responsible for the parenting techniques their parents choose. My guess is that most heli-kids don't realize the extent to which their parents are hovering. It isn't that these kids aren't bright or observant people; it's that that's just what they think parents' jobs are... because that's all they've known. So, while it is ultimately the kids' responsibility to ask the appropriate people the appropriate questions at the appropriate times, if they've NEVER had the chance to do that, it's no wonder they're lost. And, IMHO, there's no one to blame but their parents for putting them in that position.

I don't suggest that it is the kids fault but by the time they are in high school they are savvy enough to know that they can enable this type of behavior from a heli parent in order to get what they want.

AlexMack 09-13-2007 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bejazd (Post 1518665)
Now, I'm sorta sittin on the fence on this one. Seems like people on both sides of this one are getting a little outta hand. People need to be able to come on here and ask their question (even if its dumb) without being feasted upon by the sharks. If you don't like the question help them re-phrase it , point them in a direction to another thread or just ignore it. Just because you're a parent with a question doesn't make you a helicopter parent per se.

The sharks don't feast on every newb on GC. Some parents come here and they're perfectly decent, ask good questions in a polite way and are very appreciative of the answers they receive.
Others come on here, ask stupid questions like 'what is the reputation of each sorority at State U' or blow a fuse because their kid got cut and start wondering whether that school is right for their child-over sorority recruitment!
I don't have any patience for the second kind at all. Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer. And come on, we all know what the across-the-board stupid questions are.
The thread about ASU sorority reps was actually quite polite because the question was asked politely. It was only when the OP started getting in a snit over our answers that it started to become snarky.

Unregistered- 09-13-2007 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1518598)
Do we know what university? It was just announced that one of our chapters is closing.

For some reason, I doubt it's AGD at WKU.

As far as recent chapter closings, off the top of my head and according to what I remember reading on GC:

AGD-Valdosta State
DG-UCF
AXO-Simpson
DPhiE-UGA
SK-SDSU

I can't remember the others, but I know other GCers might.

Benzgirl 09-13-2007 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1518880)
For some reason, I doubt it's AGD at WKU.

As far as recent chapter closings, off the top of my head and according to what I remember reading on GC:

AGD-Valdosta State
DG-UCF
AXO-Simpson
DPhiE-UGA
SK-SDSU

I can't remember the others, but I know other GCers might.

Good to know. Not that my mother is a Helimom, I would place myself up for adoption if she got on a letter writing campaign

LPIDelta 09-13-2007 05:20 PM

I missed the original post--could someone review it?

I know of a familiar sounding situation but it wasn't a mom, it was an alumna.


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