I think it depends on your school, as well as why you are interested in the orgs. Honestly, would you be just as happy in either type? How much research have you done on the orgs, beyond just the chapters at your school?

As for being "black and kinda chunky" - it's really just going to depend on the school and the girls in the chapter(s).

that makes me curious on her intent for joining any organization that is based on superficial looks....

She says she is Black and kinda chunky....

if you have no confidence in yourself or if you have self esteem issues, then why look at orgs that are simply based on that....what else do you have to give that would make you an asset besides your looks?

That seems like that is your primary worry...or maybe I am crazy

Pink Tulips? This sounds like what a very prissy and vain woman would call her vagina.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

:D :D :D :D

The usual GCers continue to make me laugh even on the worst days.

It's not my primary worry, but most of my other worries were answered with the search function. I just wanted to know if this could affect me. I don't think its all about looks, I just don't want to waste my time of groups who might make a big deal out of it.

it's only a big deal if YOU LET IT be a big deal

I mean if they get mad because your ass has more curves than theirs or you eat a meal as opposed to them eating and purging bird seeds...then....hmmmmmm

Yeah.....

Okay, this is going to sound a bit "weird" but on my campus there is a very black, very large woman in an NPC and EVERYONE loves her. She's very well known amongst everyone and very proud of her Nigerian heritage too!

As for me myself, I'm black (not chunky, LOL) but, I'm NPC, I love it. It can get kinda awkward because sometimes I do get dirty looks from other people. It is also sometimes awkward because my organization is honestly very southern and very white but my chapter is VERY not. When I go to State/National events I'm ALWAYS the only other black person there although I have seen other black members in other chapters and there have been a few others in my own chapter more recently. But I didn't join my org. to find other black people. I joined because I liked it. I looked at NPHC and was slightly interested but there were issues there for me and so I followed my heart and rushed and got my top choice.

As a member of my college Panhellenic I'm encouraging you to go through recruitment and even if you decided not to join then you'll still meet so many people. The only way I would not advise you to rush (and I'm just being honest) is if you go to some kind of school where EVERY NPC member looks the same and there is NO diversity except brown hair or blonde hair (which is highly unlikely, but it happens) or some kind of high racial tension school where you'd honestly have the chance of a ice cube in hell (but you never know even still! I mean someone has to be the first). You can always PM me if you want to chat. Hope I helped!

pinktulips, would you happen to go to nicholls state university? cause i'm an RA there, and one of my residents is a FANTASTIC black girl who is on the chunky side. she expressed wanting to rush NPC but didn't know if she'd fit in. i'll tell you the same thing i told her (if ya'll aren't one and the same!)...go where you'll be comfortable. if you think you'd fit in better (personality-wise) with NPC, just rush, see what happens. if you're not comfortable, drop. then you'll know. i can't speak for everyone, but i personally wouldn't hold that against a girl seeking membership. as long as you didn't accept a bid and THEN drop.

I think it depends on the school and what their NPC/IFC Greek system is like. I think you can expect to be evaluated as previous PNMs seem to have been.

If so far, it's all white or it's all skinny Barbie dolls, that probably didn't happen coincidentally.

But if the system is racially integrated and truly diverse in appearance, then I think it would be more likely that the factors you mention won't be a big deal.

But you probably can't afford to approach it like, I'll rush NPC and if it doesn't work out, I'll try NPHC. The impression that I have it that for any NPHC group, you should know what group you want and pursue that one, and if you do something different, it might hurt your chances.

No, I don't, but thanks for the advice.

you know, you're right. when i made my post a minute ago i didn't think it all the way through. i can't see a black girl who thinks she'd better fit into an NPC group personality-wise fitting into an NPHC group based on looks.

I'm only really interested in one NPHC group, and my biggest dilemma is whether I should try for that one or try for a PC sorority. When it boils down, there are more complicated issues than looks. There are other issues involving family. For now it's still just one big maybe.