Most lemmings usually don't.

OMG TEH CVS EXTRA CARE CARD IS A TOOL OF ZOG

ok, so if your feeling is in general people will not sleep on this, what was your point in bringing this to our attention? Are you asking us to contact our Congresspeople ans speak out against such? Are you asking us to write letters to the President and presidential candidates? Are you wanting a sounding board for a major joint social action plan for all greek organizations? Do you want us to head this off at the pass? If so, how?

What really was your point for all the dramatics?

And no, it's not that I don't care what happens at the end of days, I know what will happen because of what I believe. And in the end (intended), that's all I need.

I'm not sure where you're going with this, but there certainly isn't a mandate to stay ignorant and silent about it, which is what I think you're alluding to.

We can prepare through prayer and ministry to others.

If people get saved as a result of this, even if it doesn't come to pass, it certainly was worth getting all worked up for nothing.

The European Union/Euro, 9/11 and the Patriot Act certainly isn't "conspiracy theory BS". It's here, it's very real, and it's happening NOW.


P.S. It's also the tip of a very large iceberg.

LOL

Is there any factual basis for these claims besides a few Youtube clips and some old articles from nearly 10 years ago?

For the same reason as 99% of all the other threads here on Greekchat:

TO ENGAGE IN DIALOGUE!!!

OMG, I can't believe what we as a people have degenerated into. We would sooner have multi-page threads on who will win American Idol or America's Next Top Model or who will be the 2007 step show champs of the world (or the fictional bogus Willie Lynch letter) rather than something that will have a direct and permanent impact on our very lives and the way we live it.

Our priorities are seriously twisted. *SMH*

Be sure to attend the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America Summit August 20-21, 2007, Montebello, Quebec.

Oh, and check this website out while you're at it, it's the official site of the North American Union taking place under the name of the Security and Prosperity Partnership.

http://www.spp.gov/2005_launch.asp

Except you haven't said a word about the Patriot Act (may it die in flames), there's not a damn thing wrong with either the EU or the Euro, and 9/11 is not in itself an infringement on your civil rights. Feel free to think that the government blew up thousands of civilians and organized a massive cover up somehow getting the agreement of the people who were supposedly on those planes and all that jazz, but I'm going to continue to not give them that much credit. You posted a bunch of Youtube videos, A-1 sources there, and predicted the end of the US consitution and the return of slavery. Riiiiiiiight. I'm going to be up front and say I gave you more credit than this. My bad.


Oh, and there's a difference between advocating "ignorance and silence" and thinking your out of your mind crazy. I'm going with the latter.
Besides, I'm not big on "saving" people. It's that darn Catholic thing again. Most of y'all* don't consider us "saved" in the first place.

*by "y'all" here I mean conservative Christians who insist on saving people, some of whom may include crazy conspiracy theorists.

By this being called a conspiracy theory, I cannot argue with you, but in essence you are absolutely correct.

i think that number is closer to 55%. The other 45% are completely pointless.

"we as a people"? wow, that a pretty lofty generalization from a thread that has replies from 7 people other than you and i in a nation where over 300 million people live.

anywho, i would think that since you seem to be so enthused by this cause that you would have replied to my questions with an emphatic "YES!!" on all fronts, and would provide at least suggestions on how we as a people can help. sometimes, RM, you have to really convince people that something is going to negatively impact their well being. sometimes, you have to make it plainer than day. it's quite possible that no one feels they're educated enough on the issue to effectively comment. or, they may not care. of the leaps that were made, single currency to losing civil rights to the Rapture, may be too much for folks. *shrug*

i see that you think this is a civil rights issue. i get that. but just because the Constitution ceases to exist doesn't necessarily mean that slavery or denying women the right to vote, for examples, are held as good ideas of something we should go back to. i venture to say that there's a minority of people who think these are good ideas. so it's quite possible that this may not be a bad thing. it may not be a good thing, either, but until folks are properly educated (if we're properly educated) we may never know.

Links to these official websites?

I had already posted a link to one of them (see post #23). Another one is this one here:

http://www.commerce.gov/opa/press/Se...Launch_rls.htm

Mexico has a new president, that's got to have an impact on this agreement.

True, but it's still to engage in dialogue, pointless dialogue, but dialogue nonetheless.

I was speaking more on Greekchat in general, not as a nation as a whole, but just for grins and giggles, how much have you heard about this issue before I mentioned it today? Did any of your friends mention this? Relatives? Co-workers? How about through the media? Big Three networks? CNN? Fox News? NPR? BBC? Yes, it was a lofty generalization, but for few people to mention it--and word does get around, especially on the Internet at least hints my assertion has some degree of validity. I am hard pressed to believe that for an event as potentially phenominal as this in an age where information is literally at your fingertips, that more people aren't talking about it. They certainly talked about Paris Hilton getting a slap on the wrist en masse (ps: BUCK A PARIS HILTON!!) :D :p But I digress...

Good paragraph, good points. Very good points. Hence perhaps that's why the signs are so subtle; if everything was to come together at once, the public reaction and backlash would be too great. Hence, the potential negative impact isn't going to be plainer than day. You have to pay attention and watch the signs. Too much presented too soon can make for a very volatile climate.

I see what you're saying, but understand that I am not necessarily indicating that these things will happen (new slavery, denying women to vote, etc.). I am merely indicating that with the new government, there comes new legislation, which raises the possibility of such to occur. One thing I am almost certain of is that our basic Constitutional rights will be done away with, as it is slowly being undermined as we speak.