This is the fourth and final season of the Tudors. Sunday was Episode Five. I love the series and have enjoyed it. Lots of nice looking men, steamy sex scenes and gruesome stuff, too. Don't go into it as a history lesson. Sometimes they go to great detail to follow history and sometimes they go waaaay off the course. There is a "Tudor Wiki" that gives lots of background information.

Certainly in English history.

I just found this show in the middle of the night when I was wakeful. I enjoyed it a lot, but I had to go dig out my reference book on the kings and queens of England to keep up.

You can't tell the players without a scorecard.;)

I love this period of history. It has always fascinated me! I have recently become addicted to Phillpia Gregory's different books about the period, though they are not always historically correct. I am currently reading "The Queen's Fool" which is about Edward, Mary, and Elizabeth.

I started watching the 1st & 2nd seasons on DVD last summer. I bought the 3rd season as soon as it came out!

I don't have Showtime, so I have to wait for the new one to come out on DVD!

Here's one scorecard, concerning the six wives: Divorced, Beheaded, Died; Divorced, Beheaded, Survived. Henry had a real thing for Catherines and Annes, too - except Jane, next to whom he's buried.

I'm waiting for the series to be over, and to get the full series & save some money. Hey, just think of the gimmick that might be included with the full series! :eek:

And bless your little baby heart for knowing that Phillippa Gregory plays fast and loose with truth! It does make for a good story, but sheesh! It's not like that period of history was boring at all! I'm tempted to read The White Queen, but I think I'll pass.

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Both my Mom and I loved The White Queen though I've liked most other books she's written so it probably wasn't hard for me to like it lol
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So history has said that Henry went a little "crazy" towards the end of his life (and that is being nice). I think Jonathan is playing Henry's craziness wonderfully! Even though they (the make-up artists) are having to make Jonathan look older, he still is looking good. He's just a gorgeous man in general. LOL.

Well, untreated syphillis does affect the brain.

The White Queen isn't quite as fanciful as some of her other books...I usually prefer straight biographies and historical NONfiction, but this book was not nearly as irritating as some in regards to what is complete fiction and what has some truth. I think she spent more time embellishing than inventing on that one.

Yup. And it affected him.

Series finale next week.

Am I the only one who was disappointed in the finale? I liked Henry seeing his former wives & their children, but what about Anne of Cleves or Katherine Howard? What about the (undoubtedly) fancy-schmancy funeral? Too many unfinished threads!

Well Anne was still alive and since she was considered his "sister", I'm not sure why she didn't come to see him. Katherine, should have haunted him. I think they just did those three because they were the only ones that had children with him.

I too was disappointed with the ending. They just stated things that most Tudor history fans know, that Edward died young, that Jane Grey (didn't list her name though) was queen for 9 days until Mary took over. Mary was known as "Bloody Mary", and Elizabeth is one of the most well recognized monarchs in the country.

I kind of wish it hadn't ended with Henry dying. I kind of wish the show had talked about Edwards time as king (short lived as he died at like 16), Jane Grey's nine days as queen, Mary's marriage (that most of England was opposed too) and her reputation (Bloody Mary) and then stop at Elizabeth's coronation (since so many movies are devoted to Elizabeth as queen).

Stay tuned! With the PR The Tudors got, I'm sure the producer is going to try Round 2.