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1908Revelations 04-03-2007 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sfksfl07 (Post 1422655)
AKA_Monet, is there something that you misread during my survey? Please PM me and give me 5 examples of things I need to do far more research on, maybe you can give me some insight since you seem to want to be so helpful.

I am forced to assume that you have poor reading skills if you believe my survey is for interests. Do you have trouble understanding grammatical tenses? Afterall, you did say you were "like waay done with college". This would explain why you would think that the survey is for interests as opposed to people who are already in a sorority. For example the questions are such as Why did you join a sorority? NOT why do you want to join a sorority. Libraries have tons of information on grammatical tense. You should visit and check up on your skills. You might just see me there continuing my research on NPC and NPHC sororities! Afterall, I never said I was finished with my research. Thanks Again!

I can assure you that AKA_Monet has great reading skills.
At any rate the questions 'why did you join a sorority?' although the wording is geared to members of sororities the answer choices were indeed superficial as SquirrelGirl stated which could lead people to believe that was geared to an interest who does not know much, if any, history or purpose of GLO's (NPC or NPHC).

Seeing that you say you are a member of a NPHC sorority I would think you would have asked more specific questions, especially about graduate membership.

BTW...since you 'are' a NPHC fab 4 member feel free to introduce yourself in the proper threads.

AKA_Monet 04-03-2007 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sfksfl07 (Post 1422655)
AKA_Monet, is there something that you misread during my survey? Please PM me and give me 5 examples of things I need to do far more research on, maybe you can give me some insight since you seem to want to be so helpful.

I am forced to assume that you have poor reading skills if you believe my survey is for interests. Do you have trouble understanding grammatical tenses? Afterall, you did say you were "like waay done with college". This would explain why you would think that the survey is for interests as opposed to people who are already in a sorority. For example the questions are such as Why did you join a sorority? NOT why do you want to join a sorority. Libraries have tons of information on grammatical tense. You should visit and check up on your skills. You might just see me there continuing my research on NPC and NPHC sororities! Afterall, I never said I was finished with my research. Thanks Again!

Based on the questions you are asking in your survey, you have failed to allow respondants to give you their truest and probably more realistic answers. You ask for the satisfaction of joining a NPHC sorority and if one would want to change if they could. What statistical measurement would legitimately establish the similarities or differences of a NPC organization and a NPHC sorority when one can only join 1 NPHC sorority for life? You should know this information and knowledge of this information makes this point moot.

Establishing the primary reasons for joining a NPHC sorority, the listing is superfluous. It should be ranked. There are many primary reasons. Some sillier than others. But what you want is quantifiable data, not randomizations without P-values. You do not have a null hypothesis based on your questions. Therefore, your Gaussian distribution will not give you any kind of post survey testing for an F-test.

Forget my vernacular, you have just got me started with full usage of my Doctorate... You understand what I mean. That is why I asking about academic review. I completely fail to understand your logic with question 9. What are you asking? Why do you ask it? Most of my sorority sisters have post-secondary degrees...

You are going to have to tolerate harsh criticism and evaluation if you write surveys that you want people to support it. You may as well let us do it you while we cannot see you rather than having another Doctorate flunk you based their extremely limited knowledge of the problem or issue. Regardless of your own professor, it has YET to matter with these kinds of things. Others are going to what know what your thoughts are about it by yourself with questions. I know, been there, done that, have a T-shirt.

I am reminding you, DO NOT GET EMOTIONAL! I am telling you had better change some aspects of the survey. If you do not know how, I will show you if you PM me. That is not only my professional opinion, it has to do with the fullness of the scientific method.

AKA_Monet 04-03-2007 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sfksfl07 (Post 1422664)
Thanks again AKA_Monet. I am so happy that you are so interested in my project. I truly appreciate your concern. I am working closely on this project under a professor of anthropology who has her Ph.D and has done plenty of research. I respect her experience and position enough to utilize her as my only advisor concerning my senior assignment. I am very well aware of all of the facts that you have given here and I again appreciate your concern!

Is she greek? And if she is, is she NPHC or NPC? Yes, it matters because it biases the kind of questions you are asking and you have lost some objectivity regarding your subject.

What if someone who is a member of another organization wants to the other survey? What are your control values?

sfksfl07 04-03-2007 12:58 AM

Thank you everyone for all of your comments and ideas. Looking through your posts has given me even more insight than I had expected to get. I also want to thank everyone who has taken the survey. I am amazed by how many surveys I have gotten back just in the past few hours! In addition if anyone here feels they can offer more insight and ideas please pm me because I am taking all of your comments into consideration for future studies that I plan to do.
If it seems like I dont know something then that is an oppurtunity for you to teach me (via PM), but I would rather not people think I am doing this study to push stereotypes!
Thanks Again!

ladygreek 04-03-2007 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga (Post 1422600)
Was it the question on whether you would choose to be a different group when with NPHC you really only rush one group that did it for you, Ladygreek?

No, very honestly it was the question about how long you have been in your org. I just answered another survey that listed the years in a way more relevant to NPHC sororities. Four year are more does not even begin to give the suveyor a sense of NPHC sororities.

So my take was this survey was only geared to collegiate members, which makes an apples to oranges comparison. And since NPC sororities also have alumnae chapters the survey would skew their results also, and not take into consideration AIs.

ladygreek 04-03-2007 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sfksfl07 (Post 1422650)
ladygreek, I encourage you to read my second post regarding how much research I need to do. In addition, I must ask what was so offensive about the first page of the survey that you believed I have a lack of understanding of the NPHC (especially considering I belong to a NPHC sorority myself). In case you have poor memory this is what the first page says:

Thank you for taking the time to take this survey! For my senior project I am studying the differences and similarities between NPC and NPHC sororities. Your answers will help NPHC and NPC sorority members have a better understanding of each other as well as point potential members in the right direction as far as what they should expect from their sorority experience.

This survey has three parts and should take less than 5 minutes to complete.

Thanks Again!


If the survey was too dificult or too stressful for you to complete then I am very happy that you opted out so soon. I would hate to cause you more pain than what you would experience in everyday life had you not been asked to complete my survey. If you do not understand my previous statement I encourage you and AlphaPhiSig to enroll together in a sociology or anthropology research class. Thanks so much! And do try not to be so sensitive.

Sensitive? Well you obviously fooled me, because your survey did not convey that you had any knowledge of NPHC. And since it wouldn't let me go to other pages, because I did not answer all of the questions on the first page, I'll admit I don't know what else you asked.

So what NPHC org are you a member of?

ladygreek 04-03-2007 03:51 AM

sfks...,
Can I safely assume you are not a Delta or an AKA, since you would not have answered your sorors thusly on a public message board?

AlphaFrog 04-03-2007 07:38 AM

MESSAGEBOARDS ARE NOT FOR HOMEWORK!

mccoyred 04-03-2007 01:38 PM

I am in the middle of the surevy and I can see what folks are saying. The first question asks whether I am in a sorority. If I wasn't then I would not be taking the survey, right? :confused:

I clicked on the NPHC link and it says NPHC at the top of the page but the questions are reminiscent of NPC orgs.

Also, for some questions, you would get better data if you allowed multiple selections.

I put n/a on the sorority history information because I am not sure of the point to this section of the survey....


Your project needs a lot of help. Please listen to the sage advice you have been given.

AlphaFrog 04-03-2007 01:44 PM

I still say messageboards are not for homework, but once I clicked on the link I was blinded by Barbie-pink (stereotype, much?). Please.:rolleyes: Make it a more normal color, that way you won't blind people.

DSTCHAOS 04-03-2007 01:45 PM

I hated that survey. I especially hated the part where you asked people to write their Founders.

Was that to see if people remembered the Founders or cared enough about your survey to write them down? I didn't care enough about your survey so my response reflects that.

DSTCHAOS 04-03-2007 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mccoyred (Post 1423016)
Your project needs a lot of help. Please listen to the sage advice you have been given.

I wonder if she followed the survey design guidelines that most graduate students conducting survey research learn. You have to have pre-surveys, get feedback, and then design the final instrument.

I also question the validity of some of the survey items. They may not be testing what the researcher intends for them to test.

Drolefille 04-03-2007 01:54 PM

I"m rather amused that the OP asked for advice then turned around and said "I respect my prof enough to only listen to him/her"

DSTCHAOS 04-03-2007 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1423036)
I"m rather amused that the OP asked for advice then turned around and said "I respect my prof enough to only listen to him/her"

So basically GC has been used for another on-line assignment and our opinions are discarded.

What a cheap thrill. :(

Drolefille 04-03-2007 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1423038)
So basically GC has been used for another on-line assignment and our opinions are discarded.

What a cheap thrill. :(

Yes. :(
And I'm sure no stereotypes will be perpetuated by a poorly laid out survey created by a non-Greek student and advised by a non-Greek prof.


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