Originally Posted by EE-BO (Post 1576198)

This amazes me.

Even some of the articles on this case pointed out there was no forced drinking here- it was a spontaneous act.

This kid spent almost 18 years of his life under the care of Mom and Dad, and a few weeks under the partial influence of a fraternity at a college.

And now the college is responsible?

Logic would dictate it is more likely this kid had fucking losers for parents who contributed to a weak sense of personal responsibility than some sinister influence that suddenly overtook him.

99% of us go off to college and have our fun, but also stay alive and in good stead. This is because we head off to college well-equipped to be adults- and a good 5-6 years older than our great grandparents who were often married with kids and running households at the age of today's college freshmen.

And now Mom and Dad want to sue. How sad. I wonder how they can look themselves in the mirror after trying to profit from the death of their own child whose bad decisions were his own- but most likely influenced by their own inadequacy.

Originally Posted by baci (Post 1633070)

I do see what you are saying and your feeling/beliefs^^, but you must note that it was at a fraternity house on campus and this is why it is a bigger issue.

Originally Posted by Laak 315 (Post 1446122)

Actually, I was unaware of what I was doing for the rest of the night...I was told I vomited quite a bit in the bathroom with numerous people in there with me to make sure I didn't "drown" in the toilet, or anything of the sort. Unfortunately, people don't know how serious a condition a person can be in when he/she drinks too much. Why do you think people who drank too much the night before aren't found dead until the next morning? It's because the other people think that person is simply passed out...not brain-dead/poisoned. I don't fault anyone at the party I was at for not taking me to the hospital or calling 911. I'm positive they would have had they been given certain signs (such as me not breathing, blue face, etc..., even though it probably would have been too late...) It would have been nice if they did lol, but I don't blame anyone for not knowing how bad off I was. They probably didn't know how serious of a condition I was in since I was still awake and was very talkative, from what I am told. (I blacked out but that doesn't mean I wasn't still awake and engaging in conversations etc...) The fraternity brothers of the guy in the article probably thought he was simply sleeping/passed out for awhile, before they decided to call 911. Unfortunately, in today's society, I don't think too many people on a college campus are going to call 911 immediately just because they see someone who has been drinking passed out. Maybe they should, but the average college-person's mentality seems to be that they are fine and will wake up the next morning. So, in summary, if you are trying to blame my fraternity brothers for me being in bad shape, I think you're wasting your time. I certainly don't blame them. It wasn't their idea for me to drink so much. I take full responsibility for my actions and had I died that night, it would have been my fault, not theirs. I learned my lesson the hard way, but sometimes that's what it takes for a person to learn a lesson. As sad as it is to hear about the guy in the article dying, no one is really to blame but himself. He's the one who drank so much of his own free will (as I stated, 3/4 a bottle of vodka is ridiculous). To blame his fraternity brothers is ludicrous in my opinion.

Originally Posted by EE-BO (Post 1576198)

This amazes me.

Even some of the articles on this case pointed out there was no forced drinking here- it was a spontaneous act.

This kid spent almost 18 years of his life under the care of Mom and Dad, and a few weeks under the partial influence of a fraternity at a college.

And now the college is responsible?

Logic would dictate it is more likely this kid had fucking losers for parents who contributed to a weak sense of personal responsibility than some sinister influence that suddenly overtook him.

99% of us go off to college and have our fun, but also stay alive and in good stead. This is because we head off to college well-equipped to be adults- and a good 5-6 years older than our great grandparents who were often married with kids and running households at the age of today's college freshmen.

And now Mom and Dad want to sue. How sad. I wonder how they can look themselves in the mirror after trying to profit from the death of their own child whose bad decisions were his own- but most likely influenced by their own inadequacy.