By us, members have to wait for a semester after initiation before they can vote.

Then that means they are not on suspension?

If they are suspensions, then why are they there?

Granted, they are still members, but under suspension and have no voting rights or should be there?

Is this correct? You let suspended Members enjoy all of the rights of full members?:confused:

They don't have the privileges of voting or maybe other things (like social privileges) but it's still their duty as a member to attend chapter meetings and know what's going on. Every group is different.

Suspended members would be something quite different and a lot more serious than someone who is on academic or financial probation. Those are two reasons for not being able to vote. The only time I can think someone would be "suspended" is if she's up for a termination vote that week, or something.

Newly initiated members have to wait a semester before being allowed to vote to give them a chance to learn the bylaws and all the roles of all the positions so that when they vote they fully know what the position entails and know that they're voting for the best possible candidate.

I would not single out those on probation, etc. by seating them seperately.

My chapter usually seated alphabetically for our formal meetings, but we'd change it occasionally, reverse alphabet or something. None of us knew our initiation numbers w/o looking at our pins :D

Ding ding ding. And they should remain confidential unless the person chooses to let anybody else in the room know on their own. Those are both very sensitive subjects and if I was put in a corner of the room for being unable to vote (most likely because I couldn't afford the fines/dues at the time), darn skippy I'd be mad about that.

When I was a collegian in my local sorority, we had a problem with sisters talking during chapter meetings. It made chapter run longer than it needed to and nobody could hear the business that was being discussed because of all of the giggling/chitchat. Sisters tended to sit in in the same groups of friends each week. Our Parliamentarian (it was her job to keep order during meetings/observe Robert's Rules/etc) solved the problem with a seating chart. She put each sister's name on an index card and put the cards on seats prior to each chapter meeting. It kept everyone quiet because it broke up the groups of friends. The Parliamentarian kept the seating chart interesting by mixing it up each week.

Maybe that is because You are in a local!

If there is a suspension, there is a suspension not only from Social but anyother rights of the GLO! That is being suspended from all rights of the GLO!

But of course yours is different!

Your and your groups decision!

Our NPC chapter would have members on probation who could not vote or attend social events (or a limited number of social events) but were required to attend chapter.

This is NOT the same thing as suspending a member which we didn't even really do. You were expelled or "punished" but not suspended.

It has nothing to do with locals and a lot to do with the fact that Tom Earp didn't get into the sorority house of his dreams when he was 18 and can't let go of the moment...

When I was a collegian, we sat in alphabetical order by last name. I'm not sure if they still do this.

We sit in initiation order and we do have "socializing" problems even though we know that isn't allowed. I'm guilty of it too...that's sometimes the only time of the week I see most of my sisters. But mostly the meeting still runs smoothly because we're quiet or someone will remind us, nicely, to stfu so we can get done on time.

As for voting, why don't you just make sure the advisors have a number of how many are in good standing. Then if they have a total vote count above that number they can make the chapter repeat the entire process until whomever is voting when they shouldn't gives up.

Wonder why I or You do not understand?

If, a member is on "SUSPENSION", then they have not rights in the Organization for attending social functions, charity events, sporting events, or attending meetings as a voting member!

I do not care if it is a Local or National!

So, You are a saying that a suspended member of your GLO can come and be in a space when maybe she has not any right to?

If your answer is yes, then why pay dues, house bill, or any other things that the Active Members have the right to do?

Please tell me so I can pass this along to My IHQ so they cannot function when there is no money coming in!

Oh, My GLO does not need Money coming in to function!:rolleyes:

Tom, YOU are the one who mentioned "suspended members." None of the NPC women brought up that term. Sometimes members in our chapters cannot vote because 1) they're behind on payments 2) they didn't make grades for that term. We do not terminate them immediately, we work with them. They are on financial PROBATION or academic PROBATION. It's a heck of a lot different than being SUSPENDED.

think of it this way - you can be a college student, and on academic probation, but still attending classes. IT'S THE SAME THING.

You could just tell them to grow up and learn to be quiet during meetings. My soror doesn't have a seating chart and we are a talkative group of girls. Get a good Sergeant in Arms if girls start disrupting the meeting.