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emb021 12-12-2006 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naraht (Post 1369046)
APO - most common
APhiO - significant minority, mostly in Region V, but some elsewhere
APhiQ or AyPhiQue - almost entirely at chapters at the Historically Black schools.

Please note that Randy is referring to written references to APO.

For instance, in my area, we usually say "APhiO", while in other parts of the country people say "A-P-O".

I usually write APO, and say APhiO.

naraht 12-12-2006 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emb021 (Post 1370204)
Please note that Randy is referring to written references to APO.

For instance, in my area, we usually say "APhiO", while in other parts of the country people say "A-P-O".

I usually write APO, and say APhiO.

I stand corrected, I didn't realize that APhiO was used in Florida that much.

And I have seen APhiO used in writing quite a bit. I pledged in Region V and used APhiO, spent enough time on Region III staff to say APO instead and then got involved with the issues with the HBCUs enough to have AyPhiQue come out of my mouth. I'm Tri-lingual. :)

naraht 12-12-2006 09:54 PM

[QUOTE=emb021;1370203]Most rules regarding limits of 'cross-membership' are usually of the form:

* you may only join ONE type of professional/honorary GLO. (ie, you can only join one Business GLO, etc)
QUOTE]
I'd rephrase this as
* you may only join ONE of each specific type of professional/honorary GLO.

So you can join both the French Honorary and the Drama Honorary.

And while the fraternity may have agreed to something goofy when it joined the Professional Fraternity Association a couple of years ago, I don't think so. (http://www.profraternity.org/products.htm is the membership list of full members)

DSTCHAOS 12-12-2006 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by naraht (Post 1369044)
The letters in the Latin Alphabet that Symbol takes to the Greek Alphabet in order are
ABGDEZHQIKLMNXOPRSTUFCYW

Of these the ones that are the worst fit are Q for Theta, Y for Phi and W for Omega

You mean, Y for Psi?

With that correction in mind, I agree 100%.

naraht 12-13-2006 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1370605)
You mean, Y for Psi?

With that correction in mind, I agree 100%.

Yes, you are right...

Still I'm not sure any other matchup would have been superior. :(

DSTCHAOS 12-13-2006 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by naraht (Post 1370749)
Yes, you are right...

Still I'm not sure any other matchup would have been superior. :(


I don't think any other matchup would have been better. But those 3 have always thrown me off. :o

LUC Kappa 03-07-2007 01:22 PM

I know the NPC (hist White Sororities) have strict and exacting rules on internal cross-membership and pretty sure that NIC (HWF) and NPHC (HBF&S) have them as well. Theoretically you could cross groups (say AKA sorority in the NPHC and Delta Delta Delta in the NPC, but I'd want to know the rules in exacting detail first.)

I really don't think you can do that. You should only have 1) social 1) academic 1) like religon, service, ect
if your really true to picking out an organization to you and sticking to it i dont think you need to go beyond this

Denise_DPhiE 03-07-2007 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LUC Kappa (Post 1409385)
I know the NPC (hist White Sororities) have strict and exacting rules on internal cross-membership and pretty sure that NIC (HWF) and NPHC (HBF&S) have them as well. Theoretically you could cross groups (say AKA sorority in the NPHC and Delta Delta Delta in the NPC, but I'd want to know the rules in exacting detail first.)

I really don't think you can do that. You should only have 1) social 1) academic 1) like religon, service, ect
if your really true to picking out an organization to you and sticking to it i dont think you need to go beyond this

Oh the irony....

aopirose 03-07-2007 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUC Kappa (Post 1409385)
I know the NPC (hist White Sororities) have strict and exacting rules on internal cross-membership and pretty sure that NIC (HWF) and NPHC (HBF&S) have them as well. Theoretically you could cross groups (say AKA sorority in the NPHC and Delta Delta Delta in the NPC, but I'd want to know the rules in exacting detail first.)

I really don't think you can do that. You should only have 1) social 1) academic 1) like religon, service, ect
if your really true to picking out an organization to you and sticking to it i dont think you need to go beyond this


What are you talking about? No, you cannot be in AKA and Tri Delta. AKA has it specifically written in their national by-laws prohibitting NPC membership. Several other NPHC groups have it too.

D, -----> <-----

AlphaFrog 03-07-2007 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUC Kappa (Post 1409385)
NPC (hist White Sororities)
NIC (HWF)

Why must we label like this?? NPC is NPC and includes white, black, asian, hispanic, etc...

AND...APhiA and Iota are a part of the NIC.



PS...NPC + NPHC = NO.

aopirose 03-07-2007 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1409413)
Why must we label like this?? NPC is NPC and includes white, black, asian, hispanic, etc...

AND...APhiA and Iota are a part of the NIC.



PS...NPC + NPHC = NO.

Just to add - Kappa Alpha Psi is too.

AlphaFrog 03-07-2007 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by aopirose (Post 1409420)
Just to add - Kappa Alpha Psi is too.

Thank you, I knew there was one more, but I couldn't remember which. I just named the ones I knew to make my point.:)

naraht 03-07-2007 03:14 PM

Can vs. Should.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LUC Kappa (Post 1409385)
I know the NPC (hist White Sororities) have strict and exacting rules on internal cross-membership and pretty sure that NIC (HWF) and NPHC (HBF&S) have them as well. Theoretically you could cross groups (say AKA sorority in the NPHC and Delta Delta Delta in the NPC, but I'd want to know the rules in exacting detail first.)

I really don't think you can do that. You should only have 1) social 1) academic 1) like religon, service, ect
if your really true to picking out an organization to you and sticking to it i dont think you need to go beyond this

According to what I have been able to find in the bylaws on the NPHC and the NPC, you *can*. In the scenario above, neither Alpha Kappa Alpha or Delta Delta Delta would be breaking the bylaws of the NPHC or the unanimous agreements of the NPC (respectively). Whether you *should* or not is a completly different story. (And I agree with you that doing more than one seems nuts).

And as for one academic, I knew students who belonged to more than one Honor Society (Honorary) in College. For example at my wife's alma mater there were several students working to get degrees in education with specialities in Foreign Languages who belonged to both a Foreign Language Honor Society and a Education Honor Society. For most Honor Societies I've seen, the amount of time spent doing things works out to a few hours a month, so doubling up there probably isn't a problem.

naraht 03-07-2007 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aopirose (Post 1409402)
What are you talking about? No, you cannot be in AKA and Tri Delta. AKA has it specifically written in their national by-laws prohibitting NPC membership. Several other NPHC groups have it too.

D, -----> <-----

Then I stand corrected. The information that I was able to find was at the NPC, NPHC level where common policy is decided. As for individual Greek Letter Organization's own bylaws, my research was evidently not complete enough. As I wrote above, regardless of whether you *can*, *should* is a different matter.

aopirose 03-07-2007 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naraht (Post 1409488)
Then I stand corrected. The information that I was able to find was at the NPC, NPHC level where common policy is decided. As for individual Greek Letter Organization's own bylaws, my research was evidently not complete enough. As I wrote above, regardless of whether you *can*, *should* is a different matter.

It's OK. There was a recent thread, now deleted, related to this topic. Very hot subject. I agree with your "can" and "should" comment.


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