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33girl 11-21-2006 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1361049)
No.

I know what a sweetheart is. I'm asking what it means in relation to her being the one to carry this task. If those dudes feel defeated then let them figure out what to do. If they don't figure it out then she'll be the sweetheart of a now defunct chapter or organization. No real sweat off of her back, right?

Oh, OK. I agree it's not up to her to figure out how to motivate them. I can understand why she'd be asking or upset if they closed, though. As we have seen on GC girls are much more apt to come and ask for help than guys. :)

UGAalum94 11-21-2006 06:13 PM

DSTCHAOS,

You've never been tempted to help out the people you were friends with, if you thought they were stuggling, and asked other people for advice about how to do it?

I mean, let's remember questions on a message board are a pretty low level of involvement, really.

DSTCHAOS 11-21-2006 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga (Post 1361091)
DSTCHAOS,

You've never been tempted to help out the people you were friends with, if you thought they were stuggling, and asked other people for advice about how to do it?

No and especially not when it comes to their organizations.

So if being a sweetheart means that their organization's problems are her own, which is why I asked the question in the first place, then okay. I still can't see why she may be more optimistic and actively seeking change than she communicated that the actual members are.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga (Post 1361091)
I mean, let's remembers questions on a message board are a pretty low level of involvement, really.


She's asking what she can do to help. She's not just typing and reading.

UGAalum94 11-21-2006 07:03 PM

Well, yeah, but we don't really know that she's contacting nationals and rallying the local alumni.

If I were a sweetheart, I'd prefer to be the sweetheart of an active, rather than defunct chapter, and I might ask for ideas of how to help them.

DSTCHAOS 11-21-2006 07:05 PM

Uh...okay......

UGAalum94 11-21-2006 07:06 PM

It just doesn't seem like that big a deal.

DSTCHAOS 11-21-2006 07:10 PM

No one said that it was a big deal.

Posting on a message board is a low level of involvement, remember?

UGAalum94 11-21-2006 07:12 PM

Glad we're in agreement.

DSTCHAOS 11-21-2006 07:20 PM

Maybe.

UGAalum94 11-21-2006 07:23 PM

I'll take what I can get. :)

TSteven 11-21-2006 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1361119)
So if being a sweetheart means that their organization's problems are her own, which is why I asked the question in the first place, then okay. I still can't see why she may be more optimistic and actively seeking change than she communicated that the actual members are.

For what it is worth, some sweethearts do take on certain responsibilities when elected chapter sweetheart. These might include, and certainly may not be limited to, helping with the chapter's rush/recruitment/intake. My guess (hope) is that most of these women would know about these responsibilities prior to accepting the honor of chapter sweetheart.

As for the original poster, I do not know if this is a situation where she is simply doing this out of the kindness of her heart (perhaps with an enthusiastic touch of optimism) or part of some "official" responsibility as the chapter's sweetheart.

emily0325 11-21-2006 08:43 PM

Basically it's just out of the kindness of my heart and that I know the enthusiam they had before has to be in there somewhere. Just matter of getting out.. I dunno. Just wanted to know if any fraternity guys had any good ideas on how to get them motivated.

The biggest thing is.. these guys are some of my best friends and I hate seeing them so down about it.

DSTCHAOS 11-21-2006 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSteven (Post 1361178)
For what it is worth, some sweethearts do take on certain responsibilities when elected chapter sweetheart. These might include, and certainly may not be limited to, helping with the chapter's rush/recruitment/intake. My guess (hope) is that most of these women would know about these responsibilities prior to accepting the honor of chapter sweetheart.

As for the original poster, I do not know if this is a situation where she is simply doing this out of the kindness of her heart (perhaps with an enthusiastic touch of optimism) or part of some "official" responsibility as the chapter's sweetheart.

Thanks.

Most importantly, I hope the guys give a damn.

lcalbdpzax 11-28-2006 12:35 PM

It is certainly not over. When I joined my glo there were 10 brothers on a campus where the all male average was about 40 or 50 or so. It takes hard work but it's easily doable. We are up to abotu 25 now with no graduating seniors this year. A problem with a lot of fraternities that go from big to small still expect rushees to knock on their doorstep. It doesn't work that way when you're small. you gotta go out and meet people. It's possible. If they still want to go on, they need ot keep their heads up and try.

Tom Earp 11-29-2006 05:01 PM

Agree with above poster, but we have to remember it works both ways.

Help coming from any direction should be good. If we do not help each other, it sure is not going to be the independents or the school.

This Soro, is asking for help. She needs help.

So, why not help instead of showing her how some Greeks can be?:o


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