Well, if you cheat on your wife with a man, in my book, you're a crappy person. If you have sex for money and then go to the press about it, you're probably not of the highest moral level either. Granted, we all have faults, we all fail, but some do it on a larger and more damaging scale.

The biggest problem is, these people (Falwell, Dobson, Haggard, et al.) say that they represent the Christian conservatives. And very few people stand up to them to say "No, you don't." So, when they get caught doing something hypocritical, it ends up making all evangelicals and fundamentalists look bad.

And, not to harp on you, but your earlier comment: "Despite the truth of the matter, he won't be able to effectively lead the church." I believe going back to my Bible studies, the big JC led his group pretty effectively when he was being accused of all kinds of things. I think if I were a preacher, falsely accused of something, I would go to the "WWJD" question and follow his lead.

Don't group those people in with Dobson. He's a little too strong for my tastes sometimes, but he's not a "God hates fags" type of person. I'm an evangelical Christian, and I don't know anybody who respects Falwell on any level.

So, cheating with another woman is okay? And, no, you did not explicitly say that, but it was implied.

So, does that part I've made bold mean that you're stating an opinion -- or are you the moral leader for all of us?

Delt, most everything I said is opinion, I don't see what your deal is.

Lane, no cheating on your wife with a woman is pretty crappy as well, it just happens to be more personally revolting when its with a man...I imagine it wrecks families even worse as well, but you're right, they're both terrible.

Probably even most peoples opinion. Even mine. But not everyone.

And, is a "gay" prostitute morally worse than any other prostitute?

Both are sins. Where in any religious teaching are levels of sin defined?

Or are we talking opinions again?

Catholicism.

See also: Mortal and Venial.

"He's filth too."

That seems pretty declarative to me.

The guy may be filth -- but that's not for me to decide -- but that's an opinion.

This is a damn message board. Do I really need to preface everything with "this is my opinion"?

He's not? In my opinion, Dobson is pretty hateful.

I've always thought Dobson to be one of those, "God loves you, but homosexuality is a sin", type people. If he's said really hateful things, I don't think I've heard them.

I think it's wise to do that when it is one.

Well, you'll get over it.

Oh yeah Dobson is an enlightened preacher alright :rolleyes:

I'm sorry but anyone who preaches the natural role of the woman/wife is subservient to the husband or father; or preaches that homosexuality is "curable"; or can preach all about sexual morality and homosexuality being a sin - then turn around and defend Foley... somes across as either a hyprocrite or a throwback.

Either which way though, he's a fundamentalist; and I don't trust nor like fundamentalists of any stripe or flavour - faith should be approached with an open heart and mind, not closed ones.