I have to agree as well. The only time I have ever seen/heard of a dorm problem was a few years ago when one had a fire. And the school and policies became the story.

So I just watched Orlando's news (my "local" news even though I live 2hrs away) about the fraternity. It was unbelievably biased and anti-greek! They were talking about ritual and their outrage that police weren't allowed in because the fraternity was holding "ritual" (the added emphasis was given by the news, not me). It seemed their purpose in covering this story was just to belittle SAE and the UCF greek system in general. I loved how when the news shifted from a cheerleader who died from suspected alcohol abuse to this story the broadcaster said something like "in other alcohol related news for UCF..." WTF News spins like that just disgust me.

Yeah they also neglected to report on the shooting death that happened across the street the same night in a university affiliated housing complex.

Hey we aren't dumbasses lol we have the 2nd highest GPA on campus.

A recent report from the web site of a station in Florida:

http://www.local6.com/news/10227405/detail.html

GPA has nothing to do with smarts sometimes.

Question. Has the chapter president given word on the situation yet?

It's probably not the best thing for him to speak about specifics of the events on an internet BBS. FL-E1973, I'd caution you about answering those sorts of questions.

I'm sorry, I can't hold my tongue any longer.

You've been Greek for all of 2.5 seconds. Stop acting like you know everything there is to know about it.

In all fairness...I think the quotes were used in context of this:

I hate to be the one to say it, but if a groups ritual routinely inolves crawling around on the floor in bras and panties, wearing wigs and diapers...the quotations are certainly deserved. Things like that make a mockery of the true word and meaning of "ritual".

I'm not saying the report wasn't exaggerated. But IF (and that's a big if) all that stuff written about what was going on in that house is true, I think the "added emphasis" was rather justified.

As for me? The gentlemen of SAE at UCF have never been anything but that to me, gentlemen. I hope that what ever action is taken is fair and unbiased.

Both the pledges who participated and the brothers who arranged this "ritual" deserve to be expelled from UCF. Talk about stupid.

Prancing around in fairy wands and ladies' panties is not what I would have expected from SAE at UCF. These men are an embarrassment to the university and their fraternity.

Whether a new member or 50-year alumna, she's still making a good point. Shoot, you don't even have to be Greek to recognize the lack of good PR for our philanthropies, awards and other accolades compared to the PR we get for the bad stuff.

I wasn't just referring to the post in this thread, and as far as the post in this thread, I was more referring to her referring to a fraternity ON HER CAMPUS as "dumbasses" when several people at the same school who have been active longer have stated that what was reported isn't the whole story.

bad bad boys
 

I'll teach those boys a lesson ;) Send them to my place...hehe

-anonymous

I am pretty sure that it can be hazing even if the victims were not pledged. I don't know Florida's law, nor UCF, but in most cases, you can haze an initiated brother as well.

When was it proved that anyone was a victim in this case, or are we more biased - and better at jumping to conclusions - than the reporters?

Furthermore, has anyone noticed the timing? Could the goofy costumes have had anything to do with Halloween?

This happened just three days before the weekend preceding Halloween.