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33girl 10-27-2006 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB (Post 1347144)
Is anyone else disturbed that the chapter in question was already on probation when this happened, and yet they still thought this was a good idea?

Unless the pledges brought the alcohol to the event without the chapter's knowledge.

jon1856 10-28-2006 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KLPDaisy (Post 1346613)
Oh good G-d, here we go again.

KLPDaisy;
I was about to post the same thing as someone else, in another thread within this RM group, once seemed to indicated that they thought and believed that only Fraternity's hazed.

However I may have added:;) or :rolleyes: or:confused: or:eek: to it.

jon1856 10-28-2006 11:58 PM

Just found a bunch of interesting news links on this event/matter:

Including this:The arrests come at the end of Dartmouth's fall rush season and amid several other incidents involving fraternities and sororities on campus. Kappa Kappa Gamma, for one, was already serving a four-week punishment, due to end Oct. 22.

http://www.thedartmouth.com/article....=2006100501010

http://www.thedartmouth.com/article....=2006101101010

http://www.thedartmouth.com/article....=2006101301030

http://www.thedartmouth.com/article....=2006101301080

http://www.thedartmouth.com/article....=2006101702020

http://www.thedartmouth.com/article....=2006101701010

http://www.thedartmouth.com/article....=2006101802030

http://www.yaleherald.com/article.php?Article=4914

http://www.thecrimson.com/blogentry....gID=27&ref=111

http://www.thecrimson.com/blogentry....ogID=27&ref=67

http://www.thedartmouth.com/article....=2006102702010













exlurker 10-30-2006 04:55 PM

A dean describes Dartmouth's Good Samaritan policy in light of some questions:

http://www.thedartmouth.com/article....=2006103002020

REE1993 10-31-2006 10:36 AM

I agree with Peppy, in that already having a recent violation should suggest hyper vigilence.

People need to realize that they cannot take chances like this anymore. Many GLOs have strict no-alcohol policies, and (informal) policies regarding pledges/members in training. It's all about common sense here.

If you are going to 1. break the law, 2. disobey NPC or nationals's guidelines, and 3. disobey campus guidelines (even if the event happened off-campus, it being sponsored puts the situation in a very controversial jurisdiction situation), you have to be nuts to do it in a public place. Not that I advocate doing it in a private place, but have these people no sense at all?

Everyone should be patted-down for these events, or prohibited/discouraged from drinking underage and/or at formal AND informal chapter events. I am no goody-goody and by no means innocent, but anything you do these days, especially if you are in a GLO, is being watched.

THIS is how Greeks get the reputation. Sorry, I am just very frustrated that after all these years, deaths, hospitalizations, accidents, etc., this still happens.

exlurker 11-17-2006 02:33 PM

The Dartmouth Kappa Kappa Gamma chapter has been placed on "social probation until March 27, 2007," according to the student paper. An article (URL below) says that KKG was NOT determined to have violated the anti-hazing rules in the college's code of conduct. The paper also reports this:

In addition to its probation, Kappa will participate in alcohol education, as well as organize alcohol education events for the CFS community. According to the Office of the Dean of the College statement, Kappa will also be required to present several other educational programs to the CFS community during the summer of 2007, and "must also work with their national organization to address communication issues and compliance with Dartmouth and national organization policies."

http://www.thedartmouth.com/article....=2006111701010

SoCalGirl 11-17-2006 02:59 PM

So you don't violate rules and you still get punished? "Tis a fair court." :rolleyes:

TSteven 11-17-2006 03:15 PM

From the article.

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"Despite avoiding hazing and alcohol charges, the committees found that Kappa violated the College Standard of Conduct for threatening or causing harm to individuals, as well as the terms of its probation."

PeppyGPhiB 11-17-2006 03:56 PM

Right, they broke the law, which most schools would consider in violation of proper conduct for student organizations. And they did it while they were on probation.

PeppyGPhiB 11-17-2006 04:03 PM

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Nelson acknowledged that Kappa's probation is not meant to serve as a deterrent from new violations.

"It clearly wasn't before," Nelson said, referring to the fact that Kappa was already on probation at the time of the incident. "I think in any situation like this, what the College tries to work with is some measure of accountability and a lot of emphasis on education and prevention."

"I think the whole situation has had a tremendously positive impact in the long run on the members of [Kappa] and how they view their responsibilities to one another as members of an organization," Nelson said.
Kappa President Whitney Dickerson '07 also saw the experience as a positive one.

Does anyone else find this a bit laughable?

RU OX Alum 11-17-2006 04:06 PM

yeah, I do.


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