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Duchovnysfan 08-03-2006 09:48 PM

It really depends on the school and the reputation that the greeks have at that particular school. Some of it is positive and other times it is negative. I have no clue how it is in San Diego State but really ask people at that university they have a better idea.

As for putting that you are greek on a grad school application, if it is relevant to your program or if you have done something substantial during your time in a fraternity (i.e took leadership positions, philanthropy). Other than that, I heard that it is seen negative, but really don't put it on there for sake of filling your application up.

honeychile 08-06-2006 12:40 AM

I'd mention it - but in a positive context.

-Volunteered at Ronald McDonald House, Regular Blood Donor,
-Excellent Time Management skills; was able to maintain a 3.5 GPA while serving as President of my sorority.

As for Professors, many GLOs hold an Academia Tea or Brunch or Open House. Everyone invites their favorite professor, and have the tea or brunch while discussing how to maintain better grade averages. Make sure that a chart of sisters & GPAs is displayed (one that skews the curve towards Major Office + Intense Studies = Great GPA). Announce the fact that you have Study Hours, and Midterm and/or Finals Study breaks. Keep the hours short (Sunday, 1-3 or such), so the professor doesn't feel duty bound to stay long, and tell them that their SO is welcome, too. This works quite well on most campuses - but PLEASE keep a list of which sisters wants to invite which professors (have at least one back up), and who RSVP'd. You do NOT want two sisters "claiming" the same professor!

carnation 08-06-2006 08:58 AM

It depends on how the Greeks behave. A few years ago, the campus where I teach had only locals and there are a couple of threads on GC in which I wrote about their awful hazing. Our college has many professors who are national Greeks and we were mortified by the image these idiots were giving Greeks. I would say that we spearheaded the move to change to nationals--I can still remember the day that most of one of my classes walked in wearing stupid outfits. They were pledging and this had already been going on for weeks. I snapped that day and told them to leave and that I'd throw out anyone who ever came into one of my classes dressed like that. Little did I know that several other professors had snapped on the same day; it was the beginning of the end for the locals.

We now have Phi Mu, ZTA, Chi Phi, and Delta Sigma Phi!

ThetaPrincess24 08-06-2006 09:50 AM

Eastern Kentucky University professors look on greeks with disfavor. They always state their reasoning as the reason we dont get our exams back as "because fraternities and sororities use them to cheat, or to study from and gives others a disadavantage." There actually was a cheating incident in the nursing program in Fall of 2005 and NO greeks were involved in that.

EKU also is not favorable to Sorority recruitment. IT has caused the sororities to have to compete with scheduling "New Student Days" in which all freshman are required to go to. Now recruitment is is scheduled so most of it begins before the first day of classes with bid day being the first or second day of classes. I think it's all a bunch of poop especially since the greeks contribute approximately 85% of alumni contributions to the university.

Tom Earp 08-06-2006 10:31 AM

The sad part of Professors not liking Greeks is due to many stupid things that Greeks can and do do. We can give ourselves black eyes in thier perspective.

But, if one stops and thinks for the most part, The GLO GPA is higher than the school average, they can see the many good charity events that we do and do appreciate them.

My chapter has always tried to have a Facualty Advisor who can be a go between with us and the school and it has worked out very well.

The schools do expect school members to do out side functions so why not ask a facualty member.


As carnation said at her school the Professors were very unhappy with the local situation and it has changed when switched to nationals. Now, I am not saying locals are bad, but in this instence, they were.

Scandia 08-06-2006 12:26 PM

My uncle became very prejudiced against Greeks after some fraternity boys at his school stole a test from the professor in one of his classes. I can only imagine what the professor thought of that fraternity afterwards. My uncle was very angry to say the least.

Someone more enlightened would understand that it was just a few specific individuals, and that not all GLO members are like that. But he or she may not have been aware that many GLOS do condemn theft and plagiarism.

Tom Earp 08-06-2006 02:31 PM

OMG, I love this post!:D

Most Tenured Profs do not change their tests and back when, each GLO or a lot of them had files for tests in their houses.

So, it too is a learning process isnt it?:)

I did once break into a Bio Lab to get the test just Animal House, but it was an old one!:eek:

Scandia 08-06-2006 02:44 PM

I have heard of test banks before. But that would be more students keeping their old tests that they received back complete with grades.

This case involved the members of a fraternity actually stealing a test that had not been administered yet.

betasigrose 08-06-2006 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akkus
In the future, lets say when you are applying to a graduate school, would you mention in your application letter that you've been a greek?

I did and was accepted! I am attending Duquesne University (Online) for my Masters of Science in Community Leadership. My involvement with Beta Sigma Phi (before I was initiated into Alpha Sigma Alpha) was viewed as positive leadership expierence. As others have mentioned, it needs to be relevant to the admissions process and positive!
Hope this helps!

Jamie

Tom Earp 08-06-2006 04:17 PM

OOPs on stealing tests before hand, I know!:D

It never hurts to be Proud of Your Greek Affiliation, you never know who might be a Greek!

If anyone remembers, that there a a lot of the Major CEOs of Fortune 500's who are Greeks, and most of the Presidents of The USA!

But, We are a bad influence on Americas Young!;)

flirt5721 08-06-2006 09:11 PM

The professors like the Greek Syster here. They are always willing to help out with the philanthropy events(being judges and such). Although most of my professors look amazed when I walk into class with letters on because I think I'm 1 of 2 sorority girls in the whole engineering college.

And as for the test files.....My professors have stop giving back test because the engineering students have their own files and always help out there friends(and also the solutions manuels can found by asking some one that has taken the class before hand)....They have never mentioned Greeks as a reason not to give back the test.

KillarneyRose 08-08-2006 11:56 PM

Don't know about professors, per se, but it was tough for me as a greek to break into the insular world that was the Pitt News Staff. When I started covering stories, I was the only greek on staff. By the time I graduated, it was maybe 20% greek.

It was difficult - I got saddled with the most benign, boring, tedious stories at first until I proved to the powers that be that I was a good reporter. I worked very hard to earn the respect of the editors and, to my surprise, I was asked to be copy editor my senior year.

And when one of my journalism professors heard that I was going into public relations upon graduation, he said "Why PR after you've become such a damn good newspaper woman?"

Journalists are generally pretty snarky toward the PR trade. I think they perceive it as glamorous and well-paid. No and noooooo.

agzg 08-09-2006 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flirt5721
The professors like the Greek Syster here. They are always willing to help out with the philanthropy events(being judges and such). Although most of my professors look amazed when I walk into class with letters on because I think I'm 1 of 2 sorority girls in the whole engineering college.

And as for the test files.....My professors have stop giving back test because the engineering students have their own files and always help out there friends(and also the solutions manuels can found by asking some one that has taken the class before hand)....They have never mentioned Greeks as a reason not to give back the test.

I had a professor once say to me "I'm sure you'll do great on this test because your sorority has a test bank. Sororities are the reason I don't hand back my tests anymore and why you have to do them on a scantron."

Um... ok. I've never seen nor heard of said test bank... but I guess since a professor told me it's there, it must exist, right?

macallan25 08-09-2006 01:48 AM

Our test bank is enormous

MysticCat 08-09-2006 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam
I had a professor once say to me "I'm sure you'll do great on this test because your sorority has a test bank. Sororities are the reason I don't hand back my tests anymore and why you have to do them on a scantron."

Interesting to me that some professors get so bent out of shape about it. In law school,the law school library maintained the test bank and all professors placed all of their exams in it. The idea was that you were an idiot if you didn't study earlier examples of that professor's exams -- every professor would tell you to study their old tests.


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