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Gods Ivy 04-04-2006 04:23 PM

I agree, if it is not about race why would you make that statement AlphaFrog? :o

AlphaFrog 04-04-2006 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by Gods Ivy
I agree, if it is not about race why would you make that statement AlphaFrog? :o
Race can play a factor and not be the ENTIRE issue.

Gods Ivy 04-04-2006 04:40 PM

No its not the entire issue but you can't get to the issue without dealing with race. That is the problem here and in America. We can't get to the issue because race always plays a factor!

Bamboozled 04-04-2006 11:31 PM

Limbaugh called alleged Duke rape victim a "ho"
 
Summary: On his national syndicated radio program, Rush Limbaugh referred to the alleged victim of a rape by members of the Duke University lacrosse team as a "ho[]."

During the March 31 broadcast of his national syndicated radio program, Rush Limbaugh referred to the alleged victim of a rape by members of the Duke University lacrosse team as a "ho[]." During an on-air discussion with a caller, Limbaugh said that former Democratic presidential candidate Al Sharpton was "trying to figure out how he can get involved in the deal down there at Duke where the lacrosse team ... supposedly, you know, raped some, uh, hos." Limbaugh's made the comment about a recent incident in Durham, North Carolina, in which an exotic dancer was allegedly raped by three members of the Duke lacrosse team. The incident has invoked further controversy because the victim, an African-American, has alleged that her attackers used racial epithets. Prompted by another caller to apologize for his words, Limbaugh said that he had made the statement because he was "running on fumes today," and called it a "terrible slip of the tongue." But he then added that there are "some inconsistencies" in the case and rephrased his apology, telling the second caller, "I regret that you heard me say it."

Read the rest of the story here

Gods Ivy 04-05-2006 08:06 AM

Wow that was deep. Thanks for the information. This is out of control. If race and class were not issues this would be handle in totally different way. This is truly sad, and the worst thing of all is that there are some people out there that think racism does not exist and that minorities are given a fair trail and or chance when crimes are committed against them.

On another note, love your quote too by the way, Bamboozled. :rolleyes:

ladylike 04-05-2006 09:08 AM

Re: Re: Rape of NCCU Student
 
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Originally posted by AlphaFrog
OK...I have to ask this...

Would you care if it was a white girl who was raped by "40 White Duke Lacrosse players"???

If your answer is Yes - you would care - then why is this a race issue???????

The "alleged" use of racial slurs during the incident made it a racial issue.

Gods Ivy 04-05-2006 09:11 AM

I definately agree about that. Not to mention that slurs have been made once before to students just sitting outside the house.

laylo 04-05-2006 10:24 AM

Re: Re: Rape of NCCU Student
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
OK...I have to ask this...

Would you care if it was a white girl who was raped by "40 White Duke Lacrosse players"???

If your answer is Yes - you would care - then why is this a race issue??????? I can't say for sure, but they probably would have raped whoever they hired - black, white, yellow or pink. It just happened to be a black girl in this case.

The issue is a GIRL was raped by several Lacrosse players and no one is stepping forward. Do you honestly believe that if the girl that was raped was white that magically someone would offer info or step forward???

Oh, and if you answered "No" to the original question, then I just have no more words for you.

The service that the victim was hired from said that they do not give a job to a Black dancer unless the person hiring them specifically asks for Black girls. This suggests that the team specifically requested a Black girl. Lets not ignore the history of White America's hypersexualization of Black women. There are a LOT of White guys who watch music videos all day and truly believe that Black women's purpose is sexual entertainment. Then when a Black woman says NO to them, they feel cheated. The sexual assault of White women is definitely given more validity and taken more seriously.

Gods Ivy 04-05-2006 11:05 AM

Amen to that. I knew it was someone what there that was feeling my pain. Another questions is why didn't the service providers have protection for the women, a bouncer type or something. Doesn't that normally happen at personal parties? The theory is that maybe they thought they would be safe because it was for "Duke" students and did not think to provide safety. HUM

JustMyself 04-05-2006 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by Gods Ivy
Amen to that. I knew it was someone what there that was feeling my pain. Another questions is why didn't the service providers have protection for the women, a bouncer type or something. Doesn't that normally happen at personal parties? The theory is that maybe they thought they would be safe because it was for "Duke" students and did not think to provide safety. HUM

I'm not sure about that but I do know that she was initially told that she would be intertaining a small group of only 5 men for a bachelor's party. However, when she arrived, the house was full of more that 40 white men.

Gods Ivy 04-05-2006 11:42 AM

Wow, are you serious?

nikki1920 04-05-2006 11:49 AM

Please, lets say the rape is alleged. We have no proof yet that an actual assault occurred. While the investigation seems slow, please be sure that Dook is following procedures to protect itself and those Dook students who did not commit the alleged crime.

The girl went to the party with another girl. The second girl left, and that's when the alleged assault occurred.

disclaimer: I am in no way saying that the girl is lying or anything. Nothing has been proven, thus my use of "alleged".

JustMyself 04-05-2006 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by Gods Ivy
Wow, are you serious?

Yes, i'm from NC and do not live too far from Raleigh. All of the news stations in our area have been following this story since day one and continue to do reports on it each night. The point that she was lead there under false pretenses had been a reported fact every since the story broke. She had no clue that she was coming into a house with that many men. She was told only 5 would be there. DNA test are due back sometime this week.

Gods Ivy 04-05-2006 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by nikki1920
Please, lets say the rape is alleged. We have no proof yet that an actual assault occurred. While the investigation seems slow, please be sure that Dook is following procedures to protect itself and those Dook students who did not commit the alleged crime.

The girl went to the party with another girl. The second girl left, and that's when the alleged assault occurred.

disclaimer: I am in no way saying that the girl is lying or anything. Nothing has been proven, thus my use of "alleged".

The district attorney confirmed that he believed a rape did occur. The fact is whether this was done or not its a problem when there has been a blaming of the victim and has not been reported every where. DUKE is a prestigious institution and has not put out any statements to ensure that justice will be served and that they would be working with the police to ensure that this is resolved. It just seems to me like the student’s protests have grabbed the attention and because they are protesting this leads me to believe there is more than just this incident under investigation. There was a female basketball player along with the coach that said they would not let this faze them and would continue as normal. This "alleged act" is not normal and should not be treated as such.

Private I 04-05-2006 12:00 PM

I truly hope the victim's abusers get punished to the fullest extent...except I can't of a legal form of punishment suitable enough for them.


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