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honeychile 03-20-2006 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by Optimist Prime
I would. Date some one out of "race"


I don't even like that term, as it implies running, which I find pointless, since I have an automobile.

ROTFL!

I once worked a governmental position, where I had to make up a book of clearances for everyone who would be on the site. I was given the standard forms to use, and under "Race", I got the funniest answers! My favorite was "Winning".

honeychile 03-20-2006 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
The same reason she brings up her cousin that is a Jew for Jesus. I mean it's not a big deal or anything; it's just kinda strange.

And dating someone or having sex with them really doesn't make you a better person. Go up to any guy and ask him "Would you hit it?" and you'll see how he surprises you.

-Rudey

Rudey, I don't have any cousins who are Jews for Jesus. I do, however, know and have worked with a few.

My Jewish cousins are Jewish, by (their own definition) birth and by religion.

Rudey 03-20-2006 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by honeychile
Rudey, I don't have any cousins who are Jews for Jesus. I do, however, know and have worked with a few.

My Jewish cousins are Jewish, by (their own definition) birth and by religion.

We've been over this.

Your cousins are Christian, by the Jewish definition.

-Rudey
--And they should be proud, and not embarassed of their beliefs.

Honeykiss1974 03-20-2006 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey


And dating someone or having sex with them really doesn't make you a better person. Go up to any guy and ask him "Would you hit it?" and you'll see how he surprises you.

-Rudey

Very good point.

So is this thread about seriously considering someone of a another ethnicity as a dating partner that you can bring home to mom and dad or just "hitting it". Because Rudey does make a good point.

BobbyTheDon 03-20-2006 01:54 PM

My girlfriend is black. Well, Creole actually. At first she was a little hesitant with dating a non black guy. But, she got over it. We have a connection that is pretty deep.

Honestly, we forget that we are different races sometimes, except when we go to her family functions and all her family members stare at me. Oh well. I tell that I listened to Eazy E and Rass Kass growing up so I've got street cred. They then laugh and learn to love me, just the way all of you on GC have learned to do with the exception of Kddani.

mulattogyrl 03-20-2006 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
My girlfriend is black. Well, Creole actually. At first she was a little hesitant with dating a non black guy. But, she got over it. We have a connection that is pretty deep.

Honestly, we forget that we are different races sometimes, except when we go to her family functions and all her family members stare at me. Oh well. I tell that I listened to Eazy E and Rass Kass growing up so I've got street cred. They then laugh and learn to love me, just the way all of you on GC have learned to do with the exception of Kddani.

Awww, that's cute.

I've only dated Black and Hispanic men. I used to think I would never date a white man simply because I felt like he may not understand me culturally. I don't feel this way now though, because he can always learn about it, and vice versa. I also think it's not only a race thing for me, but a class thing. I think I could relate to people easier if we're in the same class, regardless of race. I don't know, it's not as big a deal to me anymore.

Honeykiss1974 03-20-2006 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by mulattogyrl
Awww, that's cute.

I've only dated Black and Hispanic men. I used to think I would never date a white man simply because I felt like he may not understand me culturally. I don't feel this way now though, because he can always learn about it, and vice versa. I also think it's not only a race thing for me, but a class thing. I think I could relate to people easier if we're in the same class, regardless of race. I don't know, it's not as big a deal to me anymore.

I can definitely say that 95% of the differences between me and my SO (who is white) are class related. He grew up a la "mom moved everytime the rent was due" whereas I grew up middle class with both parents (for a while). I was surprised because I did expected it to be cultural, but its not.

preciousjeni 03-20-2006 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
I can definitely say that 95% of the differences between me and my SO (who is white) are class related. He grew up a la "mom moved everytime the rent was due" whereas I grew up middle class with both parents (for a while). I was surprised because I did expected it to be cultural, but its not.
My SO and I have age and gender issues moreso than anything else. :) We have somewhat similar backgrounds and education, so those things tend not to factor into anything.

KSig RC 03-20-2006 03:55 PM

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Originally posted by mulattogyrl
I also think it's not only a race thing for me, but a class thing. I think I could relate to people easier if we're in the same class, regardless of race.
There's some interesting research that suggests that one of the key social movements within "Generation Y" is just this - class associations are more important than racial or ethnic associations.

-RC
--"My best friend is poor" is the new "my best friend is black" . . .

enigma_AKA 03-20-2006 04:11 PM

Man---if I had a dollar everytime I heard that! (re:"My best friend/childhood playmate/neighbor/etc is Black"...usually followed or prefaced by "I'm not racist"), I'd be rich. Especially at my school. :rolleyes:

As far as the class associations are concerned, I'd be interested in hearing more on that, especially in terms of educational attainment (new class and so on). That certainly seems to be the case, nowadays.

To answer the OP: No, I think racist is far fetched. Prejudiced yes; limited in thinking and in expectations, yes. Racist no. I think it's a matter of comfort--how far one is willing to reach out/live outside of their own boundaries and understanding of race, social conditions, etc and get with/date/grow with another.

I don't agree that the movie was more about class issues, but I can see how the differences in her background compared to his added to issues of race. For him, it wasn't as much of a concern-who he was attracted to and who he could date. For Black women, oftentimes, we are expected to date within our own. Not saying it's right or wrong. That just more often than not, this seems to be the case. I can't speak for any other women of a different race.

I don't have any issues with dating outside of my race. I'm attracted to anyone who is attractive. As far as dating goes--either we kick it or we don't. You can be Black, White, Purple, Green, Orange, etc--if you're wack, you're wack. If you're cool, then cool. Period.

enigma_AKA



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Originally posted by KSig RC
There's some interesting research that suggests that one of the key social movements within "Generation Y" is just this - class associations are more important than racial or ethnic associations.

-RC
--"My best friend is poor" is the new "my best friend is black" . . .


Optimist Prime 03-20-2006 04:19 PM

Well said, enigma.

But if someone is purple, you should stop chillin and call the doctor before they choke to death. I hope you know the heimlich.

enigma_AKA 03-20-2006 04:27 PM

^^^ What about the green dude?! :p

And purple guy will have to choke in a public space. My heimlich skills need some attention--we might not make it to a doctor in time....j/k.

enigma_AKA

mulattogyrl 03-20-2006 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by KSig RC
There's some interesting research that suggests that one of the key social movements within "Generation Y" is just this - class associations are more important than racial or ethnic associations.

-RC
--"My best friend is poor" is the new "my best friend is black" . . .

LOL, I know that's 'classist' of me, but knowing is half the battle.

Oh, and I think I'm generation X, but I get your point. ;)

Taualumna 03-20-2006 05:02 PM

Sometimes, more cultural issues exist with couples who are of the SAME race. My cousin recently married, and her husband is Chinese like herself. She's from Hong Kong, he's from Malaysia. Malaysian Chinese are much, much, much more "old fashioned" than Hong Kongers and her parents and his parents had lots of issues about how the wedding should be done. For example, it's rare to see unmarried sibings participate in the tea ceremony (serving tea to the new couple) in Hong Kong and addressing them as "Sister-In-Law" and "Brother", but it's apparently still common in Malaysia. In Hong Kong, you only serve tea to those in the older generations and married siblings.)

BobbyTheDon 03-20-2006 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by KSig RC

-RC
--"My best friend is poor" is the new "my best friend is black" . . .


Check this out. My best friend really is black. And she is also a lesbian. So she killed two birds with one stone for me.

"My best friend is black"

"My best friend is gay"


But she is not poor though :( . So now I need to find someone who is poor.


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