Sex toy parties are neither feminist nor non feminist.

Seriously...

yes, because much like the stereotypes of Greeks, all stereotypes of feminists are true. :rolleyes:

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i didn't read it as the article trying to say sex-toys are feminist. i read it as sex-toy gifts and such were given just as they might be given in any other sorority that doesn't label themeselves as feminist. and THEN the article went on to say that even tho this sorority is similar to others, in ways like that, it considers itself different because it labels themselves feminist.

This is news to me.

What are the stereotypes of Greeks?

And, yes...butch with short haircuts, weird utility jeans, chunky shoes, and a tattoo or two that says "Testacles, shmestacles!" with a whole lot of Melissa Ethridge (and other Lillith Fair participants) playing in the background.

:rolleyes:

-Rudey

So let me get this straight...all a "regular" sorority would have to do is slap on the FEMINIST label, have a few sex toy parties, and voila! They're something totally new and novel? Like, wow! :rolleyes:

Sounds like a bunch of bull$hit to me.

Edited because I forgot to add: Yes, I sort of took offense at Ms. Robbins' attitude that it was OK for the members of the coed group she wrote about to sleep with each other, but when members of traditional sororities slept with people, she acted like it was disgusting. I would think that bonking your own coed fraternity brothers/sisters is more disgusting--and pathetic--than the other way around, if I had to choose.

By the definition of feminism that I've always been taught (equal rights for women, equal pay for equal work, etc), we definitely are feminist groups. We groom women to have leadership skills. We teach time management. We stress academic success and are focusing more and more on future career success. Perhaps this isn't the focus of some NPCs, but I know that Alpha Gamma Delta has been very focused on leadership and even started a new Leadership Institute to help women develop leadership skills through out life, not just as a collegian.

I'm not sure how sex toys fit in with feminism... I see feminism as empowering women to help them realize that they can accomplish anything they put their minds to, whether that's as a corporate exec or a domestic engineer.

just to be clear, I'M not saying that... that's just what i read the first paragraph as the author trying to get across.

I must have been taught a different form of feminism. I actually was attacked by it on several occassions both in high school and undergraduate school.

The feminists that attacked me were separatists who claimed men were unneeded in society and that human life would be best without them. They also stated that since all hierarchy in society was created by men, then the hierarchy should be destroyed and nothing ever created to resemble it. This included Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Judaism, etc. as far as religion, and democracy, monarchy, parliamentarianism, etc. The list goes on.

I guess that's what I get for talking to "womyn" majoring in "womym's studies".

When one of my sisters was president of MGC, she got an email from a girl who wanted to start an "Italian sorority." This may seem off-topic but it's the first thing that popped into my head when I read the title. I see more and more different niches being filled with the titles of Greek letters.

p.s. never heard anything more about an Italian sorority later on.

The women that attacked you are Gender Feminists. They don't care if a woman is qualified for a position - she should automatically get it because she is a woman and women have been oppressed - and they never question a woman's story of rape because it must be true because a woman said so.

These are the bad kind of feminists, or feminazis, who make the majority of women ashamed to call themselves feminists and be associated with that kind of behavior.

The good kind of feminists are Equity Feminists. They believe in equal opportunities and equal pay. They also believe in the right of a woman to choose ANY lifestyle SHE wants - yes, including deciding to be a stay at home mom because that's what SHE wants to do. If you asked the majority of women and men they would agree with these things. Unfortunately, as happens in many social movements, the nutcases have drowned out the sane people.

ETA: just so no one thinks I came up w/ this on my own. I'm not that smart. :)

Alpha Phi Delta actually started out as a fraternity for Italian men - but I am guessing it was because they were barred from membership in other fraternities.

Absofreakinglutely. "Womyn" who think men are not needed by society and that everything they've created should be destroyed are to feminism what far-right militant freaks who think bombing abortion clinics is a good idea are to Christianity.