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Kevin 12-08-2005 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RACooper
Oh come on... that was much more polite a euphamism than I would expect from you...
Sometimes I excede expectations.

Actually, most of the time.

Come to think of it... All except that one time.

lifesaver 12-08-2005 09:56 PM

Re: Why Conservatives Are Smarter
 
Quote:

Originally posted by hoosier
There are "conservative" colleges - like Hillsdale and Bob Jones - but liberals rule most places.
Yeah, I'm going to need some stastical proof on your broad sweeping generalization here.

Also, I call BS. You cant rail against wikipedia in other posts (several, in fact) then go on to cite it as a source when it suits your needs and you cant qualify your opinions otherwise.

You either withdraw your above claim cited in Wiki, or the one from the other thread where you thought nazis were liberals. (where you refused to admit you were wrong.)

did you really think I'd let that slip? Come on old man, you got better game than that.

RACooper 12-09-2005 11:12 AM

Re: Re: Why Conservatives Are Smarter
 
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Originally posted by lifesaver
Yeah, I'm going to need some stastical proof on your broad sweeping generalization here.

Also, I call BS. You cant rail against wikipedia in other posts (several, in fact) then go on to cite it as a source when it suits your needs and you cant qualify your opinions otherwise.

You either withdraw your above claim cited in Wiki, or the one from the other thread where you thought nazis were liberals. (where you refused to admit you were wrong.)

did you really think I'd let that slip? Come on old man, you got better game than that.

lifesaver I think you missed the point... he called Bob Jones a college :rolleyes: or even worse implied that it as a fine example of a "conservative" college...

Tom Earp 12-09-2005 05:28 PM

Coop, isnt BOB JONES a college? Or so professes to be?

Does a Liberal get up on the Right of The Bed and A Conservitive get up on the left side of the Bed? If this is true so far, where does a Moderate get in Bed?:)

hoosier 12-10-2005 12:04 AM

Re: Re: Why Conservatives Are Smarter
 
Quote:

Originally posted by lifesaver
Yeah, I'm going to need some stastical proof on your broad sweeping generalization here.

Also, I call BS. You cant rail against wikipedia in other posts (several, in fact) then go on to cite it as a source when it suits your needs and you cant qualify your opinions otherwise.

You either withdraw your above claim cited in Wiki, or the one from the other thread where you thought nazis were liberals. (where you refused to admit you were wrong.)

did you really think I'd let that slip? Come on old man, you got better game than that.

Believe I added a qualifier regarding Wiki - only a source, not to be trusted unless you know the info to be true.

Nazis = National Socialists = lefties, like all socialists.

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http://www.frontpagemag.com/Content/read.asp?ID=55

A Report of the Center for the Study of Popular Culture

Political Bias in the Administrations and Faculties
of 32 Elite Colleges and Universities

Executive Summary (David Horowitz and Eli Lehrer)

This report on political bias at 32 elite colleges and universities is the third in a series conducted by the Center for the Study of Popular Culture and researched by Andrew Jones.[1]

Summary of Results

In our examinations of over 150 departments and upper-level administrations at 32 elite colleges and universities, the Center found the following:

The overall ratio of Democrats to Republicans we were able to identify at the 32 schools was more than 10 to 1 (1397 Democrats, 134 Republicans).
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PS: Posting names is a violation of TOS, according to John.

hoosier 12-10-2005 12:13 AM

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Kevin 12-10-2005 12:33 AM

Which conservative values does Bush represent?

hoosier 12-10-2005 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
Which conservative values does Bush represent?
1 - He has tried to get some measurable results from federal education spending, via testing and "no child left behind"

2 - He has strengthened national defense, and taken action against the Islamic Terrorists who attacked us

3 - He's tried to give welfare recipients a chance to get housing and ownership opportunities

4 - appointed an aggressive diplomat to help get UN reform, appointed an excellent conservative SC judge, and nominated another good SC guy.

Unfortunately, he's also signed the McCain-Feingold campaign finance act which limited free speech and opened up the doors to financial tsunamis, signed the highway bill funding Alaskas bridge to nowhere, appointed a horseshow guy to head FEMA, and spent like a democrat.

kstar 12-10-2005 01:08 AM

Re: Re: Re: Why Conservatives Are Smarter
 
Quote:

Originally posted by hoosier
Nazis = National Socialists = lefties, like all socialists.

Actually, the Nazis were at the far right of Germany's political spectrum.

Though, most political scientists now, don't use the linear model, they prefer a circle. If you go to far to the left or right, you are basically at the same place. For instance, the Chinese Totalitarian "Communist" Regime is basically equivalent to the Totalitarian Nazi Regime.

kstar 12-10-2005 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hoosier
1 - He has tried to get some measurable results from federal education spending, via testing and "no child left behind"

2 - He has strengthened national defense, and taken action against the Islamic Terrorists who attacked us

3 - He's tried to give welfare recipients a chance to get housing and ownership opportunities

4 - appointed an aggressive diplomat to help get UN reform, appointed an excellent conservative SC judge, and nominated another good SC guy.

Unfortunately, he's also signed the McCain-Feingold campaign finance act which limited free speech and opened up the doors to financial tsunamis, signed the highway bill funding Alaskas bridge to nowhere, appointed a horseshow guy to head FEMA, and spent like a democrat.

1) How does testing and "every child gets left behind" help schools?

2) He ignored memos from the Clinto administration about possible terrorist activity, which led to 9/11, then attacked a country under the guise of WMDs, while disregarding the UN watchdogs information that there were none. Guess what, there weren't!

3) Why not help welfare recipients get jobs, not put them further in debt?

4) Though, I think that the Supreme Court should be an impartial body. I don't like the idea of the Republicans controlling all three branches of government, including the House and Senate.

Also, WTF? "spent like a democrat?" His spending is out of control, but democrats typically raise money for their spending, not cut taxes. Wasn't the highest budget surplus under a Democrat? I do believe it was. However, the two highest deficits were under both Bushes.

Kevin 12-10-2005 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hoosier
1 - He has tried to get some measurable results from federal education spending, via testing and "no child left behind"

2 - He has strengthened national defense, and taken action against the Islamic Terrorists who attacked us

3 - He's tried to give welfare recipients a chance to get housing and ownership opportunities

4 - appointed an aggressive diplomat to help get UN reform, appointed an excellent conservative SC judge, and nominated another good SC guy.

Unfortunately, he's also signed the McCain-Feingold campaign finance act which limited free speech and opened up the doors to financial tsunamis, signed the highway bill funding Alaskas bridge to nowhere, appointed a horseshow guy to head FEMA, and spent like a democrat.

So as a "conservative", he's expanded the federal government's size and influence more than anyone in recent history?

Again, how does Bush support conservative values?

layla2728 12-10-2005 01:26 AM

Re: Why Conservatives Are Smarter
 
Quote:

Originally posted by kstar
Actually, the Nazis were at the far right of Germany's political spectrum.

Though, most political scientists now, don't use the linear model, they prefer a circle. If you go to far to the left or right, you are basically at the same place. For instance, the Chinese Totalitarian "Communist" Regime is basically equivalent to the Totalitarian Nazi Regime.

Agreed- the Nazis were fascists, NOT socialists. Either way, kstar is right in that if you go far enough left of right, you're going to end up in the same place.

layla2728 12-10-2005 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hoosier
1 - He has tried to get some measurable results from federal education spending, via testing and "no child left behind"

2 - He has strengthened national defense, and taken action against the Islamic Terrorists who attacked us

3 - He's tried to give welfare recipients a chance to get housing and ownership opportunities

4 - appointed an aggressive diplomat to help get UN reform, appointed an excellent conservative SC judge, and nominated another good SC guy.

Unfortunately, he's also signed the McCain-Feingold campaign finance act which limited free speech and opened up the doors to financial tsunamis, signed the highway bill funding Alaskas bridge to nowhere, appointed a horseshow guy to head FEMA, and spent like a democrat.

1 - tried and failed... mostly because he just used a good PR-sounding name for an act that effectively did nothing

2 - last I heard, we haven't caught Osama yet... you know, the one who actually claimed responsibility for the attacks

3 - even if this was true... since when has welfare been a priority for republicans?

4 - the guy he appointed to the UN has had nothing but disrespectful comments to make about the organization, and people around the world thought the appointment made a mockery of the position

going along with ktsnake... just how does the expansion of the government under Bush go along with conservative values? aren't they supposed to be the ones for decentralization? but I could be wrong I guess... I'm only a poli sci major.

hoosier 12-10-2005 02:06 AM

As I've posted before, the Republicans control the House and Senate.

However, conservatives do not control either, and there is a difference.

Hopefully, in '06 and '08, more conservatives (Dem or GOP) will be elected, and more 'moderates' and libs will lose.

PS: I think that if 'no child left behind' included a paragraph saying 'every teacher gets a $5,000 raise', all the teachers and all the teachers' unions would be saying 'great legislation, we should have done this years ago. All those tests are really helping the children.'

Similarly, if Wal-Mart announced tomorrow that employee unions are welcome, 95% of the anti-Wal-Mart activity would cease.

RACooper 12-10-2005 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hoosier
Similarly, if Wal-Mart announced tomorrow that employee unions are welcome, 95% of the anti-Wal-Mart activity would cease.
And if you believe that I got some nice mountain lake property to sell you in Saskatchewan :p


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