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Has anyone heard anything about who applied at CMU or who was selected to present?
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which one?
Central Michigan U?
Central Missouri U? Central Montana U? Central Methodist U? Did Zeta Psi colonize at Bob Jones? |
Erik, check the beginning of the thread. It's:
Carnegie Mellon |
thanks, NutBrn
Thanks for clearing up the CMU question. I always enjoy hearing
from Chi O's! |
I believe they used to have AEPhi there but I could be wrong. I got a piece of mail from them for my old landlady and she went to CMU.
I haven't been on here in a while, you can put away the tissues for today! |
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My old GA was in the Chi O chapter at CMU. They closed over the summer, and just sent a letter to the alums after the fact. I remember she was pretty upset over it. However, its one of those things where the alums are upset but when I talked to her more she was one of 2 people in her pledge class to get initiated....so the closing probably shouldn't have come as a surprise. |
I am a bit older and was in in one of the other 4 houses at CMU. At my time in the late 80s, Chi O did suffer very weak numbers which was really a shame.
Since then all the national houses have gotten quite large. The other 4 houses alphabetically are DDD, DG, KAT and KKG. I think CMU should only choose a really strong national such as PiPhi over KD which is not as big in the Northeast. |
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Since you named PiPhi, why would they be a good choice as opposed to anyone else? They have one chapter nearby- at Washington & Jefferson. There's not a big of an alumnae base as some other orgs that could potentially colonize there. They also have roughly the same amount of chapters in the Northeast. I'm certainly not picking on PiPhi, but if you're going to name two groups like this, give some reasoning to back it up. ChiO is a huge national org with a lot of chapters in the vicinity, yet they didn't make it. The size of the org nationally really doesn't have much of an effect at schools where greek life isn't like a huge deal. |
The majority of women at CMU are extremely focused and career-minded. The university will want an organization that has a strong national reputation to provide networking sources for their graduates in addition to the CMU alumni associations.
The rushees (prospective members) are by far not all freshman, many don't know about references and legacies, and they can pretty much get into the house they want. If a student does not get her top house she won't have worry about making an error in joining any group because even if the chapter isn't "good" the national level is incomparable. Look at all the Ivy League and other schools like MIT etc. These academic powerhouses are all somewhat hesitant about greek life (a bias on their part) and thus tend to only allow chapters with very strong national reputations. As a CMU Greek, I would like to see Pi Phi because of their reputation. We need to have a national that has the resources tol truly support their colony and young chapter. |
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I really hate how your statements are giving off that "the other NPC sororities aren't good enough for CMU" vibe. :rolleyes: But whatever. |
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Pi Phi may not even want to apply to CMU. There are plenty of groups that would do very well at CMU. Pi Phi isn't strong or well-known in this area at all, either. All groups have areas of the country where they are stronger or weaker. All groups have have strong and weak chapters. And not every chapter at CMU is super. Also, from what I know of CMU, you're certainly looking at the greek system through rose-colored glasses. One of my best friends advises one of the sororities there, and I went to school down the street so i'm fairly familiar with it. None of the groups there are "incomparable" on a national level. You have a lot to learn about being panhellenic. Every group has their strengths and weaknesses. I could easily point out the weaknesses of many of the groups that are already there, but what is the point? I don't know if you got a lump of coal in your stocking from a KD or what, or if a Pi Phi gave you a great gift or something. |
OTW, kddani, you both make great points. I have no idea who alum is, or what she does or doesn't know. I just know that what she's saying is NOT what I've heard. I have nothing against Pi Phi, but when there are 26 NPC sororities, and 22 left to choose from, I'm not sure how any one person can select ONE sorority over all the others, without presentations and such.
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