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You can be drunk enough to be slipping in and out of consciousness and not fully aware or observant of your surroundings.
Out of control drunk, naked and surrounded by men who are much bigger and stronger than you, terrified, possibly for your life... Some of you are being very judgmental about how people react in a situation like this. How horrifying for this young woman. I hope she is able to recover. Dee |
Hoosier can you please link to the original story so we can see who actually writes this bad. If this is true, I hope this girl gets the counseling she needs and those involved are punished.
In a majority of rape situations, refusing to comply further increases the violence and the amount of time the victim is with her attacker(s). Sometimes it does lead to death. If it were that easy to just say no and walk away untouched don't you think she would have? |
If you are very drunk and/or drugged, it's highly possible that it would take you a while to notice a guy having sex with you. There have been one or two instances where I was very drunk and kissing a guy, and god, I would have had no clue had he tried to pull anything else. I was barely conscious!
Large amounts of alcohol or drugs would also affect your thought process on how to react . But, as GP is pointing out, if you're in a room with 10 football players, I don't think it's the best idea ever to bite. You guys are just spitting out variations on the Italian "It's not rape if you're wearing pants" rule and that's ridiculous. |
As I read the story, he carried her to his room, laid her on his bed and he took her clothes off. After that, she "noticed" that he had taken off his clothes and was having sex with her. It doesn't say that she resisted in any way, which makes you think of possible drug involvement. Or, it could even have been consensual up to that point. In fact, there is no mention in the article of her putting up any defense until the other seven or so men got involved.
IF the article is anywhere close to accurate, this is a very strange situation that leaves more questions than answers. One thing is for sure, there's no way a woman (or a man, for that matter) is going to fight off seven football players. That's movie stuff. The other thing for sure is that a serious crime was committed. I don't think this one could be swept under the carpet by the university or athletic department. Unless there's something really bizarre that we just don't know. I can't even imagine what that might be. ETA that I got a phone call in the middle of writing this and several posts were made which make this kind of redundant. Sorry. |
This situation (if it, in fact, occurred) is CLEARLY rape and each of the players should not only be expelled from school but should also be prosecuted.
My complaint with this report is that it paints an unbelievable scene. And, my comments about oral sex were a side observation. Maybe she could have been forced to perform oral sex. PEOPLE MUST STOP DRINKING THEMSELVES INTO A STUPOR. It's foolish and dangerous because people will take advantage of you. You can't control others but you can control yourself. So, while her drunkeness certainly DID NOT warrant or invite rape, if she had been smarter about her drinking choices, we wouldn't be reading a report like this. |
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Didn't anyone else get this information?? It couldn't have just been me. |
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I've got my bottle of Triple Black. It's in my hand. It never leaves my hand. I go out to the dance floor because I am suddenly overwhelmed with the urge to shake it like a saltshaker. While I am dancing, my Triple Black is in my hand. This is a fraternity basement. It is not well lit with ample room to dance. My body is being brushed against by at least 4 other people at all times. While I bend over to the front and touch the toes, I bump into sketchy Joe Runningback. He slips a clear, colorless, pill into my bottle in a naonsecond. How do I know this? |
I googled gang rape UTC and found a few articles.
http://www.newschannel9.com/engine.p...ormat=%M+%e,%Y http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_74901.asp http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_75089.asp Jeni, when I was in college and even before, I knew not to accept drinks from strangers and not to leave my drink alone. I went to a party, got my own drink, and held on to it while I talked to a guy. When I turned my head for a second or two, the guy poured some clear liquid in my drink. Luckily, I saw it out of the corner of my eye, got rid of the drink, and got away from him. I wasn't drunk or even close to it. I turned my head because his friend distracted me. I think he poured alcohol in my drink, not a drug. At the time I didn't really appreciate what could have happened to me. I never thought it could be anything other than alcohol. I just thought that he was a jerk and I had better get away from him. It is possible for someone to tamper with your drink. |
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