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JohnsDGsweethrt 10-15-2005 03:30 PM

also i am noticing that most of the women had 4 names meaning they were married at that age (teenagers)! i'm guessing anyway!

KSUViolet06 10-15-2005 03:32 PM

All 8 of them were 16-18. Pretty impressive.

ladygreek 10-15-2005 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by JohnsDGsweethrt
also i am noticing that most of the women had 4 names meaning they were married at that age (teenagers)! i'm guessing anyway!
When we publish our Founders'names we always use the maiden and married names eventhough they were not married at the time of our founding.

CarolinaCutie 10-15-2005 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by ladygreek
When we publish our Founders'names we always use the maiden and married names eventhough they were not married at the time of our founding.
Ditto.

Erik P Conard 10-16-2005 12:52 AM

thanks, SAE, Beta, et al
 
I had forgotten about Rev. DeVotie's son...a glorious history for
all curious. SAE has many neat stories
And ZZ kai, what a nice write up, could not be better
No wonder Beta and SAE still inspire their men!
Several other groups have marvelous stories related to their
founding and early days,
and,
finally,
AOPi sweetheart, take a shower and shave

Erik P Conard 10-16-2005 12:56 AM

apologies to AOPi
 
a senior moment, and having been scolded by Wilma Smith Leland, I apologize for my crack which should have been directed
to the lovely Phi Mu...so, please pass the razor.

CanadianZete 10-16-2005 09:40 AM

Zeta Psi's founders

John Bradt Yates Sommers

Brother Sommers was born in New York City on August 15,1829, at 82 Madison St. the home of his father, Rev. Dr. Charles G. Sommers, pastor of the South Baptist Church, and his mother Sarah L. Skelding. He had at least one brother, James Fellows Sommers, who was two years younger. James died and was buried at sea at the age of 18. Sarah Sommers died in 1843. The Sommers home was the site of the first meetings of the Fraternity. John Sommers lived there until moving with his father in 1852 to 17 St. Mark's Place, where he lived until his death on November 23, 1863.

John Sommers entered New York University in the fall of 1845, when he was a little over 16 years old. By diligence and devotion to his studies, he attained and held a high position in his class and was one of the most popular students in his college. There were three national fraternities at NYU, and John Sommers' reasons for founding a new fraternity, rather then joining one of the three, are not known. To complicate matters, a general feeling against secret societies made founding a new fraternity difficult. Nonetheless, early in 1847, he shared his concepts with two friends, William Henry Dayton and John Moon Skillman: all three were "Class of 1849." The three met at the Sommers home and matured their plans. Ill health forced Dayton to transfer to the University of North Carolina, so Sommers and Skillman proceeded with their plans and formally created Zeta Psi Fraternity on June 1st,1847.

Around the time he was organizing Zeta Psi, he was initiated in the Masonic Order in Arcturus Lodge in New York City.

Sommers and Skillman worked to perfect and enlarge the Fraternity. Early initiates were George S. Woodhull, Class of 1848, and William H. Carter and George S. Mott, both Class of 1850. By 1849 there were 7 members, and by 1850 there were 10. Sommers took a personal part in establishing the Zeta (Alpha of Massachusetts) Chapter and Delta (Alpha of New Jersey) Chapter in 1848 and the Sigma (Alpha of Pennsylvania) Chapter in 1850. Sommers was secretary of the first National Convention, at Williamstown, Massachusetts, in 1849, and served as President of the conventions in Newburg, New York, in 1850, and New Brunswick, New Jersey, in 1851.

Brother Sommers entered the office of Kirkland & Birdseye as a law student, and was admitted to the bar in 1854. He was made a member of the firm shortly thereafter; the firm eventually became Sommers & Johnson. On October 5th, 1859 he married Emma A. Heath, and they had two sons, Frederick Skelding and Henry Cantine Sommers. Some years before his death in 1863 he became a confirmed invalid.

At the time of his death he was a member of and Past Master of Adelphic Lodge No.348 of the Masonic Order. The Grand Master of Masons in New York State wrote of him: "His fine intellect, his scholarly achievements, his professional ability, his courteous manners, and his zeal in every cause for intellectual and social advancement were elements of his character which endeared him to all who knew him..." Another Prominent Mason wrote: "He was not actuated by a desire to do the best he could do for his client at all hazards but to do the best that he could with due regard for the rights and equitable interests of those who stood in an antagonistic position, thus showing a characteristic without which no man can be a great lawyer- the love of justice."

John B.Y. Sommers was burried in the Sommers family plot (of 32 graves) in Greenwood Cemetery in Brooklyn. A prestigious monument marks the family plot and records his burial. He was buried with full Masonic honors and the Phi Chapter attended his funeral in a body.

At his death, the Chapter adopted the following resolution of respect:
"The whole Fraternity of Zeta Psi is called upon to mourn the untimely decease of Brother J.B. Yates Sommers, the honored and respected founder of our Order, which he committed to love and adore to the day of his death. His own generous disposition and the debt of gratitude we owe him as one of those who instituted the pure and noble principles of Zeta Psi have made his memory sacred to the heart of every brother.

"While bowing in humble submission to decree of infinite love and wisdom, we deeply mourn the sad Providence which has deprived us of this revered patriarch of our Fraternity. While grieving for our own loss we tender our heartfelt to that other circle to which our departed Brother was bound by the fondest of earthly ties. As a faint expression of our deep regret we will observe the ritual of mourning, drape our hall and shroud our badges in the usual manner, and request our sister chapters to unite with us in this tribute of respect.

"Resolved,That a copy of this minute be sent to the Family of the Brother, to the Grand Chapter, and to several chapters of the Fraternity."


William Henry Dayton


Brother William H. Dayton died on August 17, 1847, while returning to the University of North Caroline to continue his course as a sophmore. With him died the idea of founding a chapter at Chapel Hill. He was born in New York City in 1827. When he was 15 his father, Thomas Dayton, moved the family to Boston for business reasons.

At an early age he displayed sufficient intellect and endurance to induce his father to give him a college education. Beginning his education of New York University, his health began to fail. His physicians determined that had consumption (tuberculosis) and advised going south. So he completed his freshman year at the University of North Carolina, of which his uncle was president. In an eulogium delivered at a meeting of the Phi Chapter on May 23,1848, Brother J.B.Y. Sommers said: "His willingness to labor for others, his uniformity of charity and disposition, meek lustre of a piety that neither blazoned ostentatiously at one time nor wavered and sunk at another, but shone serenly and steadily on, make him deservedly the favorite of all who knew him."


John Moon Skillman


Brother John M. Skillman, son of John and Catherine Skillman, was born at 74 Remsen Street, Brooklyn, on March 29,1831. Following preperation for college in a private school in Brooklyn, he entered New York University in the fall of 1845. He worked closely with brothers John Bradt Yates Sommers and William Henry Dayton in founding Zeta Psi Fraternity, and was the first president of the Phi Chapter.

He graduated in 1849 with an A.B. degree and entered the employ of John B. Kitching & Co. He then took a business position in the South, but returned to the North before the Civil War broke out and entered the naval service. He served as pay clerk, from August 26, 1981, to October 15,1862, on the U.S.S Potomac. Then starting on November 14 and until February 12,1864, he served as acting paymaster and captain's clerk on the U.S.S Bohio. He transferred then to the U.S.S Meteor, serving on that vessel until his death in Mobile Bay on July 13,1865. He was buried in Green-Wood Cemetery, Brooklyn.

His sister reported that he was much esteemed by his employers, and was regarded as having a loving, kindly disposition and posessed of great thoughtfulness of others. He was a member of the First Dutch Church of Brooklyn, and much interested in the Sunday School. He gave a large Bible to members of the Sunday School when he entered service in the Union Navy.

WhiteDaisy128 10-16-2005 10:19 AM

For Delta Gamma:
Eva Webb Dodd - born 1855 = 18 years old at founding.
Anna Boyd Ellington - born 1856 = 17 years old at founding.
Mary Comfort Leonard - born 1856 = 17 years old at founding.

honeychile 10-16-2005 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by ladygreek
When we publish our Founders'names we always use the maiden and married names eventhough they were not married at the time of our founding.
I think that's how it was always done, as late as 50-60 years ago. Our "main" founder, Eugenia Tucker Fitzgerald, actually had another husband!

There are still decendants of the orginal six Founders who are being initiated!

AchtungBaby80 10-16-2005 11:27 AM

Ours were mostly in their 20s, I think, with a couple older teenagers thrown in...one or two were even mid-20s, so they were ancient! ;) I forget exactly how old they were, though...maybe another DZ can help me out?

axidgl 10-16-2005 12:49 PM

For AXiD's founders...

Almira Lowry Cheney- 18
Frances Elizabeth Cheney- 24
Harriet Luella McCollum- 19
Cora Josephine Bollinger Block- 25
Lewie Anna Strong Taylor- 26
Alice Helen Bartlett Bruner- 15
Lucy W. Gilmer- 21
Bertha Alice Cook Evans- 19
Julia Maude Foster- 18
Eliza M. Drake Curtis Everton-26

aephi alum 10-16-2005 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by honeychile
I think that's how it was always done, as late as 50-60 years ago. Our "main" founder, Eugenia Tucker Fitzgerald, actually had another husband!
AEPhi does this to this day. Married sisters are listed as Firstname Maidenname Marriedname.

In my new member manual, the founders and national officers were all listed this way. Fortunately, we only had to memorize the founders' maiden names and the national officers' married names.

</hijack>

suntzu1963 10-16-2005 10:21 PM

The 12 Honorable Founders Iota Phi Theta Fraternity, Inc.

Even more uniquely, many of these men were what are now referred to as "Non-Traditional Students" and were 3-5 years older than the average college student. Gregory, Willis, and Brown were all service veterans, and Brown, Hicks, and Briscoe were married with small children. Of this group of 12, several were also working full-time jobs and all were full-time students.

-- Taken from: http://www.iotaphitheta.org/history.htm

JonInKC 10-16-2005 10:31 PM

Re: apologies to AOPi
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Erik P Conard
a senior moment, and having been scolded by Wilma Smith Leland, I apologize for my crack which should have been directed
to the lovely Phi Mu...so, please pass the razor.

LOL @ Erik... Who's Wilma Smith Leland?

exlurker 10-17-2005 12:23 AM

Re: Re: apologies to AOPi
 
Quote:

Originally posted by JonInKC
LOL @ Erik... Who's Wilma Smith Leland?
JonInKC, Wilma Smith Leland was Interational President of AOII 1959-61. She was also editor of AOII's magazine, To Dragma, 1927-46. She also collaborated with her husband in managing their publishing company, which for many years produced a monthly magazine about Greek life. I believe the magazine was a casualty of the 1970s.


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