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PhoenixAzul 09-08-2005 09:59 AM

Since we have deffered recruitment, we use fall quarter to really pump up recruitment. There's usually an "all greek" pannel (with food) and then there's like a women's only mixer, where the PNMS and sorority women meet in the campus center and eat ice cream and talk individually...it lets the girls meet the PNMS, the PNMs meet the other PNMs who have signed up, and usually a bunch of girls sign up there because the friends that dragged them there are rushing and they want to too! Don't underestimate peer power. A lot of girls don't want to go through rush alone...they want friends to do it too, so having an event that mixes the girls who have allreadu signed up and those on the bubble might help.

I was a PX this year and sat the recruitment sign up table a lot this year...going into winter break, we had maybe 69 girls signed up, with 6 sororities. Come back from winter break, and before opening ceremony on Wednesday, we reached 100! Then we had 25 more girls sign up the morning of Open house and got funneled into the PX groups with girls who didn't show up. Made it interesting at the chapters...the girls always had to make up new name tags and what have you.

33girl 09-08-2005 08:55 PM

Kate - if I'm not mistaken, school started the 29th - lots and lots of people went home over Labor Day (this past Monday) and now rush is starting this Friday?

Unless, as Lindz suggested, there was a section of freshman orientation that dealt specifically with rush, it's way too much and too soon to even expect freshmen to have a clue. Plus there isn't much information on the website. It has dates, and generic info, but it needs to explain exactly what happens during recruitment. It's one thing to do rush at this time with all upperclassmen who know something about it. It's quite another to do it with freshmen, in an area that does not have a strong Greek tradition.

I don't know who the NPC committee was composed of that said first semester formal should stay, but they apparently did not realize that schools who DO have rush like that have other things in place to make it a success, like easy to find, detailed, updated sections on the school website and a concerted effort by Panhel and/or the school to inform freshmen of this opportunity. I don't see either of those here.

Your Panhel might want to get in touch with Penn State or Pitt's Panhel and ask them for some pointers since they're the only ones I can think of with as many groups and a similar student base.

fire1977 09-09-2005 12:28 PM

The NPC consult - one woman was not only an IUP alumna, chapter advisor for the local chapter but also in a very good position in the upper part of her sorority. I value their opinions - the information that they returned with wasn't shocking but it was true. While recruitment was the real reason they came they singled out some bigger problems which have been making progress over the past 2 years, the most significant being grades.

However - I know that there are quite a few more women signed up than originally was posted and they placed almost all the women last year so that's a plus - and there are currently more signed up this year than last so it's growing. Rome wasn't built in a day and neither is the greek system here.

Oh and for whomever asked, ceiling was lowered by 20 women but it hadn't been readjusted in many, many years when it probably should have been.

I still stand by what I said earlier, but again, it takes time.

BetteDavisEyes 09-09-2005 12:39 PM

Something my former school does is to give a folder w/lots of information about on campus organizations. In this folder, is the flyer for recruitment w/the names of all the sororities and fraternities on campus. It also gives the information for info night & registration. This is given to all incoming freshman, & transfer students.

PinkSigma3 09-09-2005 05:26 PM

Formal starts tonite (well their information meeting) and as of last night we had 87 girls signed up. I guess a lot DO wait until the last minute, but I have taken a few suggestions from this forum to our Greek Life advisor.

PinkSigma3 09-11-2005 09:04 PM

So we had 105 total signed up...50 have dropped out already.Rumor has it that there was some scandal with a sorority telling girls to drop out of formal and just go to them during informal and they'd get a bid!!! I dont know if thats the whole reason, but its pretty crappy.

We'll see what happens.

PsychTau2 09-11-2005 09:12 PM

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Originally posted by PinkSigma3
So we had 105 total signed up...50 have dropped out already.Rumor has it that there was some scandal with a sorority telling girls to drop out of formal and just go to them during informal and they'd get a bid!!! I dont know if thats the whole reason, but its pretty crappy.

We'll see what happens.

Greek advisor or Recruitment Counselors need to go to these drop outs and talk to them about why they dropped out. Some of them might not be smart enough to hide the fact that they were guaranteed a bid from a group...if that's the case. It's always best to talk with drop outs anyway because they can tell you if your recruitment procedures/style/etc. are horrible or not. Best way to get feedback for next year.

The other thing is that if you have a list of them and a LARGE majority of them join one group right after recruitment, then you might have a problem.

BUT, if that group doesn't have enough room to bid all 50 (meaning they'll go over total), you'll have some pissed off PNMs who may rat out the group anyway.

That's just my random two cents.

PsychTau

AGDee 09-11-2005 10:43 PM

According to my records, their Total is 45, so NO group has enough slots to dole out to all those PNMs.

33girl 09-12-2005 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by AGDee
According to my records, their Total is 45, so NO group has enough slots to dole out to all those PNMs.
But I'm sure each PNM doesn't know the sorority told the same thing to 49 other people.

ETA PinkSigma3, please check your pms. :)

PM_Mama00 09-12-2005 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by PinkSigma3
So we had 105 total signed up...50 have dropped out already.Rumor has it that there was some scandal with a sorority telling girls to drop out of formal and just go to them during informal and they'd get a bid!!! I dont know if thats the whole reason, but its pretty crappy.

We'll see what happens.

This is why starting May 1st till the end of Bid Day, COB is NOT TO BE MENTIONED. It's a rush infraction and a VERY VERY bad thing to do. That's why I hope no PNMs from my alma mater ever come on GC and view these boards, because they're not supposed to know about any other recruitment other than Formal (well that reason and many many others). It works out very well, and if a PNM gets wind of it they are told that it is suggested to go through Formal because chapters could fill up and there wouldn't be room to take on more members.

Their panhel needs to get cracking cuz it sounds like it's a big problem. If more than a few chapters aren't at total, is it possible to lower total? Maybe even an infraction rule be placed on telling PNMs about COB/COR.

FSUZeta 09-12-2005 11:11 AM

if what is rumored to have happened is true, that is a MAJOR recruitment infraction, and the greeklife office should investigate it now!!bring it to their attention.

fire1977 09-12-2005 03:12 PM

that would mean that the chapters would actually have to file an infraction which doesn't really seem to happen.

Total was just lowered last year from 65 to 45.

PinkSigma3 09-18-2005 10:00 PM

well quota was 4 n we got 5 beautiful pnm's

pinkyphimu 09-19-2005 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PinkSigma3
well quota was 4 n we got 5 beautiful pnm's
congratulations to your chapter!!

Kasis-anon 09-20-2005 01:34 PM

Well done, congratulations!


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