I'm pretty sure that here at Ole Miss we have a guaranteed placement system, IF THE PNM PLAYS THE GAME and attends all parties she is invited to, maximizes her potential (as they call it here), etc. She will most likely find a home on bid day. It is still a MUTUAL Agreement though.

Not only that, but if an administration says that "All who go through Recruitment must be given a bid" then you'll have the problem where organizations might haze like crazy in order to "weed out" the people they didn't really want before initiation (in other words, they'll treat them so badly that the New Member will resign from the group on her own instead of the group "rejecting" them).

NOT a good scenario.

PsychTau

VERY good point!

I have seen chapters be forced to give bids to people they didn't really want. Then, some of the girls will be down right MEAN to them to try and get them to quit. So sad. :(

My understanding of "guaranteed placement" with NPC sororities is that if a PNM follows the rules, maximizes her invitations, and fills out her pref card completely, listing all sororities whose pref parties she attended, she will get a bid. It may not be from her first choice sorority. (ETA: She does not have to accept the bid, but if she does not, she cannot accept a bid from another NPC sorority for one year.) If a PNM does come through recruitment and is a nightmare, she'll be released by all sororities prior to pref, and accordingly will not receive a bid. No sorority would have her forced on them.

One of the characteristics of GLOs is selective membership. Each chapter has the right to choose which PNMs to invite to the invitational rounds of formal recruitment (including the order of their bid lists) and which PNMs to offer bids to during informal recruitment.

So if my understanding of "guaranteed placement" is what the administration has in mind, that's fine. But if anyone can come along and sign up for rush and it's stipulated that they must receive a bid no matter how nightmarish they are or how low their GPA is - no way.

Yes, a guaranteed bid. But not a guaranteed acceptance........

Your best bet is probably to contact NPC and get their help. This might be a campus that they would be very interested in getting onto so they may be able to sit down with the university administration and talk with them for you.

www.npcwomen.org (hopefully that's right).

Not something I had thought about, but PsychTau has a very valid point. Something else, a Chapter could cancel a pledgeship too. Given the confidential nature of GLOs I don't think a University would be entitled to know why. Wow, I'd hate to see any of these things happen.

Sounds like to many variables could be thrown into the pot.

If some of the things mentioned like hazing, then it could become a quagmire and the good reputations of the GLOs would go right out of the window.:(

As was stated, go to Your individual HQs and try to get some input from them.

Then, it might give a truer picture.

I've always heard it makes the big bigger and the small smaller. I dunno though, anyone share this feeling?

They used to have it at Creighton and that's definitely what happened. Not the guaranteed bid, but the guaranteed you can pledge wherever you want crap.

i don't think there is ANY organization...mgc, nphc, or local that does 100% acceptance. i also don't think the school can force it. it seems like the school is just doing this because they don't want you to start an organization. they know that no organization will take everyone.

there was an administrator on my campus that believed this was the best way to go, too. one year there was a big thing, that he insisted we give everyone a bid, blah blah blah. anyway, it didn't happen. the following year, one woman was dropped from all of the houses prior to pref night. the greek advisor asked us after bid matching why we all dropped her. we all replied at once that she had a joint (sans marijuana) on her name tag and proceeded to talk about how much pot she liked to smoke at every party in every house. even the administrator understood why no one would want to offer her a bid.

Yea, this questions is only answered easily if, we understood the dynamics of the specific university in question.

I assume it is a smaller university (less than 5000). If that is the case and you only have one GLO I can't imagine offering every single "random" a bid.

I can also assume it is a religious university, in which case, I see why they would not want any one to start a "secret society" with out them having control of the admittance policy for whatever religious reason they chose.

However, if an organization were to start up and be the one lone sorority then, then formal recruitment wouldnt be necessary anyway, and only a COB type of invitational party would be recommended. In which case, you would only invite the women you were interested in anyway.

Does that make any sense? (it did in my head)

Made sense to me :D

For UT guaranteed placement my understanding is that it is what has been described above: maximize your options each round. Back in olden times (when I went through rush ) you didn't have the option to go to less than the max number of events for that round.

Ex. There were 14 chapters and you got to go to 10 max. You had to go to 10 even if you had decided you only liked 5 of them (which of course would be silly and why you had to go to 10).

My understanding is that now you only have to go to the ones you want - so you could go to 5. BUT if you want guaranteed placement you have to go to 10.

It's the same through all the rounds - except for pref. You are required to go to two events but have the option to go to three. For guaranteed placement you have to go to all three. You are then guaranteed a bid from one of the three that you attend that evening.

Of course if anywhere along the way you are invited to less than the max number you can attend, you would still get guaranteed placement, you just have to go to all events you are invited too. So if you were only invited to 8 you would have to go to 8 (on the 10 day) you couldn't just go to 5.

In the instance that you are release from all chapters, you drop out of recruitment or at anytime don't go to the most events that you can, then you would not be eligible for guaranteed placement. You are also only guaranteed a bid from chapters who's preference event you attend - since per NPC guidelines you are required to be somewhere on their bid list. You are not required to be on someones list who you decline or who did not invite you - so you can't expect a bid if you didn't attend the event.

Please feel free to correct anything that is wrong here. This was how it was explained to me in the first years that UT did it. It could have changed since then.

There are a number of religious universities that have sororities and I don't think they have any issues.

Marquette
St. Louis U