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PhiPsiRuss 07-01-2005 02:48 PM

Oh no! A Republican appointed justice is retiring!

AGDee 07-01-2005 02:54 PM

The key is she was a moderate conservative Republican appointed justice. She was the swing vote that kept things balanced, particularly with regards to Roe v. Wade.

PhiPsiRuss 07-01-2005 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by AGDee
The key is she was a moderate conservative Republican appointed justice. She was the swing vote that kept things balanced, particularly with regards to Roe v. Wade.
She was not the swing vote with regard to Roe v. Wade. Three justices collectively, including her, were the swing vote on that issue.

The speculation of the leading candidate to next be appointed by Bush, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, is dreaded by the religious right because they believe that he won't be predisposed to overturning Roe.

All of this OHMYGODTHESKYISFALLING!!1! is baseless and ridiculous.

Rudey 07-01-2005 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
She was not the swing vote with regard to Roe v. Wade. Three justices collectively, including her, were the swing vote on that issue.

The speculation of the leading candidate to next be appointed by Bush, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, is dreaded by the religious right because they believe that he won't be predisposed to overturning Roe.

All of this OHMYGODTHESKYISFALLING!!1! is baseless and ridiculous.

Can you stop explaining things to people. We were going to have people leave to Canada. Oh wait they were just going to yap about leaving to Canada.

-Rudey
--At the very least they could hang out in Cancun for a while but they didn't think about that.

PhiPsiRuss 07-01-2005 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Can you stop explaining things to people. We were going to have people leave to Canada. Oh wait they were just going to yap about leaving to Canada.

-Rudey
--At the very least they could hang out in Cancun for a while but they didn't think about that.

I don't see them hanging out in Cancun. They strike more as the day cruise type who hang out on the Lido Deck.

AGDee 07-01-2005 03:55 PM

Well, I haven't exactly cried that the sky is falling. Us liberal type folks could live with O'Connor most of the time. She was moderate. We feel concerned that her replacement may be much more conservative. I'm sure the right wing would be just as nervous if Clinton were replacing someone like one Rehnquist. I personally hope that Roe v. Wade doesn't get overturned, but it's not the only issue out there.

omegamcgee 07-01-2005 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by AGDee
Well, I haven't exactly cried that the sky is falling. Us liberal type folks could live with O'Connor most of the time. She was moderate. We feel concerned that her replacement may be much more conservative. I'm sure the right wing would be just as nervous if Clinton were replacing someone like one Rehnquist. I personally hope that Roe v. Wade doesn't get overturned, but it's not the only issue out there.
I agree. She's moderate, not a crazy right-wing extremist. Roe v. Wade is incredibly important to me, as it should be to all women, and while it is not the only issue out there, it's important. And I don't think the sky is falling. I'm upset, because I like having personal liberties, but eh, what can you do.

Rudey 07-01-2005 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by omegamcgee
but eh, what can you do.
Move to Canada like you want and it'll all be OK.

-Rudey

valkyrie 07-01-2005 04:04 PM

It's easy to lack concern for the status of abortion rights in our country when you're not getting any. For anyone else, this may end up being a big deal at some point in the future, although whether that ends up being the case depends on several factors.

Rudey 07-01-2005 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by AGDee
Well, I haven't exactly cried that the sky is falling. Us liberal type folks could live with O'Connor most of the time. She was moderate. We feel concerned that her replacement may be much more conservative. I'm sure the right wing would be just as nervous if Clinton were replacing someone like one Rehnquist. I personally hope that Roe v. Wade doesn't get overturned, but it's not the only issue out there.
Clinton was from the moderate wing of the Dems.

-Rudey

Tom Earp 07-01-2005 04:08 PM

Actually, I wonder if all of the knashing of Molars is really going to make a damn bit of difference?

Liberal or Conservative, when any Duly Elected Moron gets in, He/She will have their own agenda. It has always been my contention that the sheep soon place the frock of wolves clothing on when they are sworn in.:)


Scalia and Thomas were strictly Interperating, the Constitutional Law.:)


I think I would Make a Great Justice!:cool:

honeychile 07-01-2005 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by KillarneyRose


Sometimes I think who ends up on top in the government is a gigantic crapshoot. It's about being at the right place at the right time in history.

If my sig wasn't too big already, I'd make this mine - truer words have never been spoken!

ms_gwyn 07-01-2005 04:22 PM

Roe v Wade is not my biggest concern, but it is a concern.

But this is my biggest concern (taken from another thread and a direct quote)

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Originally posted by bekibug
Even though it is satirical as hell, America The Book is probably the best civics book ever.

Page 30:
The three branches would in essence police each other with an elaborate system of safeguards and precautions that would prevent power from being concentrated in too few hands. Quipped a jubilant [Alexander] Hamilton, "The only way it could fail is if one party gained control of not just the Executive, but also the Senate and House chambers, and upon doing so, proceeded to bring in like-minded judges!!!!" And then the Framers all laughed and laughed and laughed."


PhiPsiRuss 07-01-2005 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
It's easy to lack concern for the status of abortion rights in our country when you're not getting any. For anyone else, this may end up being a big deal at some point in the future, although whether that ends up being the case depends on several factors.
If "not getting any" is an indicator of the support for abortion rights, then how is it that women who have given birth (and clearly do get some) are more likely to be opposed to abortion rights than other women or men?

PhiPsiRuss 07-01-2005 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by ms_gwyn
Roe v Wade is not my biggest concern, but it is a concern.

But this is my biggest concern (taken from another thread and a direct quote)

If that is your biggest concern, did you vote against Clinton in 1992 when the Democrats had controlled the House every year since 1955, and the Senate for the same period except for two years?


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