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honeychile 05-09-2005 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Can I shoot a cannon? Do people actually buy their own uniforms?

-Rudey

It depends how much you get into the whole reenactment gig. A good book about it (about the process, not a "How To") is Confederates in the Attic.

I have friends who are into Rev War reenacting; they have a weaver who makes "regulation" material, and then make their own clothing. But, if you look in the back of most War-oriented magazines, you'll see suttlers (people who provide uniforms etc) listed.

KSigkid 05-09-2005 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by honeychile
It depends how much you get into the whole reenactment gig. A good book about it (about the process, not a "How To") is Confederates in the Attic.

I have friends who are into Rev War reenacting; they have a weaver who makes "regulation" material, and then make their own clothing. But, if you look in the back of most War-oriented magazines, you'll see suttlers (people who provide uniforms etc) listed.

I'll echo you on that one. "Confederates in the Attic" is an excellent book - it's a great supplement to those who would like to study the Civil War further.

Rio_Kohitsuji 05-09-2005 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Can I shoot a cannon? Do people actually buy their own uniforms?

-Rudey

They have one...heh. And yes, they do. My father is a Zolave (spelling...I'm not sure of) and that little outfit was expensive.

AlphaSigOU--Do you know everything? ;)

AlphaSigOU 05-09-2005 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by Rio_Kohitsuji
They have one...heh. And yes, they do. My father is a Zolave (spelling...I'm not sure of) and that little outfit was expensive.

AlphaSigOU--Do you know everything? ;)

Nahhh... my Mark I Mod I computer (read: brain) just a repository for useless trivia... :D People keep asking me why haven't I tried out for Jeopardy! One of these days I'll go to one of those contestant searches...

BTW, you were close... it's Zouave. :D

Tom Earp 05-09-2005 06:24 PM

Zouave.

Thanks AlphaSigOU !

They look liked Musilums (SIC) in those funny Uniforms. Great Battlers though.


I have Friends who do this and it can be expensive. End of Month going to a Partners for His.


What can I say, Earps Fought for the North, Il. I am also Related to Andrew Johnson 17 th Pres. and Robert E. Lee!

honeychile 05-09-2005 09:03 PM

I know what you mean, Tom. I had ancestors on both sides, fighting in the same battles. I like to think that they shot at each other!

Can you imagine the in-law problems their kids had?!

Rio_Kohitsuji 05-10-2005 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by honeychile
I know what you mean, Tom. I had ancestors on both sides, fighting in the same battles. I like to think that they shot at each other!

Can you imagine the in-law problems their kids had?!


LOL!!!!:D :D That made me happy today :)

DeltAlum 05-10-2005 05:25 PM

Returning (roughly) to the topic, I was in London on VE Day and the big issue there was Tony Blair ignoring the celebrations while Bush and a lot of other world leaders were meeting.

The PM took his lumps in the British media.

BBC-TV did a big live remote broadcast from Trafalgar Square -- which I saw them setting up for and then forgot to watch.

cashmoney 05-10-2005 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by AlphaSigOU
Plenty of freaks out there who do that regularly. Some reenact Civil War, others World War II. Needless to say, people shit a brick when you see WWII reenactors dressed up in full Waffen-SS garb.

I'm totally feeling you on that one. My great grand-mother still has my great-grandfather's uniform, he was in the SS Panzer Divison (he was a tank commander during the invasion of france and during the battle of the bulge). She even still has his ring he got when he joined the SS as well as all his papers. For some reason, though, it's not something she breaks out and shows people outside our family. I'm guessing its because most people don't know the difference between the SS Panzer Divisions and the SS Deaths Head Division. The one my great-grandfather was in (tank divisions) was nothing like the murderers of the Deaths Head.

RACooper 05-10-2005 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by cashmoney
I'm totally feeling you on that one. My great grand-mother still has my great-grandfather's uniform, he was in the SS Panzer Divison (he was a tank commander during the invasion of france and during the battle of the bulge). She even still has his ring he got when he joined the SS as well as all his papers. For some reason, though, it's not something she breaks out and shows people outside our family.
Commemorating WW2 soldiers in German hasn't really ever happened - mainly because to many difficult questions about their service would then arise... my great uncle never wore his medals or talked about his service unless he was comfortable and familiar with the people around .

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I'm guessing its because most people don't know the difference between the SS Panzer Divisions and the SS Deaths Head Division. The one my great-grandfather was in (tank divisions) was nothing like the murderers of the Deaths Head.
... and some of us do know alot about SS Divisions.

Well I guess it all depends on what division he was in... yes the Totenkopfverbände were the focal point of many war crimes; but other SS Divisions had there fair share as well - if your great-grandfather was in Meyer's for Normandy or Pieper's for the Bugle then I'd have to refute that claim of total innocence.

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
Returning (roughly) to the topic, I was in London on VE Day and the big issue there was Tony Blair ignoring the celebrations while Bush and a lot of other world leaders were meeting.

The PM took his lumps in the British media.

BBC-TV did a big live remote broadcast from Trafalgar Square -- which I saw them setting up for and then forgot to watch.[/b]
The Canadian PM took a beating as well for not being in the Netherlands for Liberation Celebrations, or actively playing any part in VE-Day celebrations/memorials... his political instability right now barely allowed him to leave - and only because the leaders of the opposition parties called a two day truce to go over to Europe.

Private I 05-11-2005 10:21 AM

How did Bush´s trip to Russia on May 9th go? I was in Moscow last year for the celebration of the liberation, and it was huge!

p.s. I also do not want to re-enact any WW´s-something about the fact that I had family in concentration camps during that time doesn´t really do it for me.

honeychile 05-11-2005 10:52 AM

I once mentioned in a class that I know of someone (who has since passed away) who was in the SS and got calls for months, threatening me for not saying his name and where he lived!

cashmoney 05-11-2005 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by honeychile
I once mentioned in a class that I know of someone (who has since passed away) who was in the SS and got calls for months, threatening me for not saying his name and where he lived!

Thats fucked up.


When I was in 5th grade I did something horrible....every student had to draw a flag other than the U.S. and it had to be one that related to them in a way. I was 10 yrs old. When it was my turn to get up in front of the class I showed them the Nazi flag/Swastika. I didnt think anything was wrong with it, I didnt know any better. My teacher started freaking out and I remember this black kid named Isaiah asking what a "Nay-Z-eye" flag was. When asked why I drew it, I told her it was part of my family. :rolleyes: I wasnt old enough/had to know how to inform them I just ment it to be a German thing. Back in 1990 very few people back then knew what the German flag was, but most people knew the swastika. Still, it must have seemed really fucked up for a 10 yr old to draw something like that when there is no way in hell I could have come up with that on my own without having someone in my family somehwere along the line affiliated with the party in those days.


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