I can understand a university's view of no money to the organization, but access to facilities is for students, not necessarily organizations. I could go and reserve a room at school and use it. I can even say, no one can come into the room while I am using it. The only justification for not allowing me access to the room is if I am going to do something illegal or if there is a lack of facilities and a certain number of students want to use the same facility, the majority will get it.

A university here in washington has different statusus (SP) available to different types of clubs. The university does not have a greek system so i dont know how the rules would apply, but with religious groups the status that they have is that they can use campus facilities, can get access to having space on the university web site (maybe with some type of restirictions like they cant spread hate or something) they can get access to having a campus phone number and mail box and money for advertising, but not a lot of money. They can petition the residence hall association for some funding if they want to hold a philanthropy project or something that could be seen as university wide, ie non religious but sponsored by a religious organization. I personally think that is a good idea. then the groups can exsist but not have do deal with some of these issues. However, i really have never heard of religious groups who outwardly will not allow homosexuals, even thought the campus is pretty liberal.

In some cases, If some University uses student, state, or federal funds to pay for events, All Student Organizations would be eligible for funding. This is so all organizations can do quality programs.

My contention is basically the opposite of the Groucho Marx quote...

"I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members." - Groucho

Why would any gay person want to be a member of a club that actively would not want them as a member? I say recognize the fraternity as a student organization, allow them limited use of school facilities, but limit their receipt of any school funds to events which benefit the university community as a whole.

See "self-hating gay".

Maybe their goal would be to take that practice to a whole new level?

"Hi, I am a good Christian Organization and want to be recognized so We can get Schools funding.

Oh, We dont allow anyone who is Gay, Black, Brown, of what ever!

If you do not agree with us, We will Sue You!:o

""" SCREW THEM""""!

That is all!:mad:

something something- get to the back of the bus
something something- segregation now, segregation forever
something something

I don't really think that whether any gay person wants to join is relevant. The school is not responding to a group or even an individual student who wants to join. Rather, they are responding to the very idea that a university, a place which hopefully is striving for inclusion and integration within its student body, should be supporting and organization which excludes certain students.

I am not saying that all groups which are exclusionary are inherently bad or that people don't have a right to choose whom they associate with, but there is an issue as to how much they should be supported by a school, particularly a state school. Even recognition is an endorsement, at least on some level, by the school of this organization and by extention their policy of discrimination.

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Site your articles please.

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False.

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You apparently didn't read my post very closely. I didn't say that this organization or any organization has to let in gays. What I did say is that UNC and by extention the State of North Carolina doesn't have to recognize it or give money to it.

No one is saying you have to "bow to another." What we're saying is if you choose not to "bow to another" you have to pay for your own club and find your own space to meet but you can't use UNC money or UNC facilities and you can't call yourself a UNC club!!!

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To my knowledge, you don't have a medical degree, so i'd like to know what medical doctor proved this.

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..Everyone else has those same rights.

..Why would anyone stand up for something they don't believe?

..That "fact" is not proven -- medicine believes the opposite.

..So much for the "all loving" God. The one I was taught about and believe in loves and accepts all.

To me, this is not Christianity. At least not as I understand it.

HI FRED!!!

Harvey Fierstein called, you left your panties at his house.

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Congratulations! There are so many things wrong with this statement, I don't know where to start.