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Rain Man 02-16-2005 01:18 PM

I think I know...
 
Are you referring to the 1993 Somalia conflict?

moe.ron 02-16-2005 01:20 PM

Re: I think I know...
 
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Originally posted by Rain Man
Are you referring to the 1993 Somalia conflict?
Nope, wrong century. At the time of this war, Jefferson was still the president. Think about the Marine hymn.

honeychile 02-16-2005 01:21 PM

Tripoli!

ZTAngel 02-16-2005 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by moe.ron
Nope, wrong century. At the time of this war, Jefferson was still the president. Think about the Marine hymn.
The Barbary War? I didn't think it was officially declared, though, but it's the only African conflict I can think of during the Jefferson presidency.

moe.ron 02-16-2005 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by ZTAngel
The Barbary War? I didn't think it was officially declared, though, but it's the only African conflict I can think of during the Jefferson presidency.
You are correct madame.

Link to Source

There is another one that one could debate wether or not it was legally a war. If you could name it, I shall post a pic of a llama.

KSig RC 02-16-2005 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by moe.ron
Nope, wrong century. At the time of this war, Jefferson was still the president. Think about the Marine hymn.
XYZ Affair!

-RC
--Obviously "the shores of barbary"

honeychile 02-16-2005 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by ZTAngel
The Barbary War? I didn't think it was officially declared, though, but it's the only African conflict I can think of during the Jefferson presidency.
You're better than I am! I simply could not put a name to that war!!

moe.ron 02-16-2005 01:27 PM

Name the 7th conflict that resulted in a declaration of war. However, there is a debate to this day wether or not it was war.

ZTAngel 02-16-2005 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by honeychile
You're better than I am! I simply could not put a name to that war!!
I'm just surprised that I'm remembering this stuff. My history teachers and professors would be so proud! :)

ETA: Oops. The 7th war that you speak of, Arya, is in the link that you provided. So, for all those still guessing, don't look at the link yet!

Rudey 02-16-2005 01:38 PM

This is all dependant on what you consider a war and who declares it. You're talking about congressionally sanctioned wars.

I believe World War II held at least 3 separate decalarations of war by the Sentate alone.

Resolution 119 was Germany and 120 was Italy. I don't remember Japan, but I'd bet it was resolution 118.

Congress hasn't declared a war since those 3 declarations (I think December 11).

Thus the Korean War, the Vietnam War, Laos/Cambodia, Bay of Pigs invasion, the Iraq Wars (I and II), along with any other action taken in Panama as well our citizens serving foreign militaries were conducted under a policy of neutrality without congressional declaration of war.

Once a war without congressional declaration is in motion and troops are on the ground, the only thing that Congress can do is to move to cut funding for the military in that region. The only time this was ever done was in 1973, when Congress did the unthinkable and tacked a liquidation of funding for troops (in North/South Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia) to a Social Security Bill.

-Rudey

KSigkid 02-16-2005 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by KSig RC
XYZ Affair!

-RC
--Obviously "the shores of barbary"

Ah, the glorious history of relations between France and the United States. (at least I know I'm not the only person who knows what the XYZ affair is).

moe.ron 02-16-2005 01:46 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
This is all dependant on what you consider a war and who declares it. You're talking about congressionally sanctioned wars.

I believe World War II held at least 3 separate decalarations of war by the Sentate alone.

Resolution 119 was Germany and 120 was Italy. I don't remember Japan, but I'd bet it was resolution 118.

Congress hasn't declared a war since those 3 declarations (I think December 11).

Thus the Korean War, the Vietnam War, Laos/Cambodia, Bay of Pigs invasion, the Iraq Wars (I and II), along with any other action taken in Panama as well our citizens serving foreign militaries were conducted under a policy of neutrality without congressional declaration of war.

Once a war without congressional declaration is in motion and troops are on the ground, the only thing that Congress can do is to move to cut funding for the military in that region. The only time this was ever done was in 1973, when Congress did the unthinkable and tacked a liquidation of funding for troops (in North/South Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia) to a Social Security Bill.

-Rudey

The last declaration of war was against Romania during WWII.

DeltAlum 02-16-2005 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by moe.ron
The last declaration of war was against Romania during WWII.
Was there also a declaration against Austria?

moe.ron 02-16-2005 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
Was there also a declaration against Austria?
For WWI, but not WWII.

Rudey 02-16-2005 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by moe.ron
The last declaration of war was against Romania during WWII.
Congressional declaration? I didn't think Hungary, Romania, and Bulgaria had actually been declarations. I checked on the internet and one website said that but none of the others said anything...

-Rudey


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