:confused: What?

What the hell was that post all about?

Please So allow me to stick my fingure down my throat and Puke!:eek:


DigitalAngel126, Not aimed at you but that moroonic post you quoted!:eek:

THIS POST IS ADDRESSED TO THE STARTER OF THIS THREAD
 

My advice to you is run/ get appointed to Chaplain/Ritual Chair/whichever office the duties thereof are to oversee the Initiation of New Members. You can make changes if you try. I faced some simular situations and attitudes when I took office so I know what you're going through/I know through what you are going. If you want to make improvements to your chapter in a very profound way then you would be a good Chaplain. Afterall, you noticed it. Your chapter should be glad to have you, since if most people didn't care about their part in ritual, then probably most people getting initatied wanted to get it over with. Hopefully you can get their help when/if you are Chaplain.

I found that QUITE amusing.

hehehehe

I find it quite amusing that she called you sugar pops... and spelled it correctly. :p

I've always believed a couple things in regards to my ritual.
[*]First, one saying we have in Beta Theta Pi is "Once a Beta, Always a Beta, Everywhere a Beta" As a pledge, this was explained to me as that I've always believed in the principles and ideals of Beta Theta Pi, and I've lived my life accordingly, even while in HS and before - I just had never known it the wording of the fraternity. If I hadn't been living up to those ideal to some extent already, well I probably wouldn't have fit into the fraternity and not found my place there. If you believe the same thing about your chapter, then the "secrets" should not be life-altering in a sense that they are not completely new concepts.
[*]Second, if the chapter is doing its job, then your pledges/new members should know what your organization stands for - again not necessarily in the wording of the organization or in regards to what your actual letters mean, but the whole thing should not be bringing them new concepts. Members should be tryign to live up to those ideals and hopefully conspicuously succeeding in doing so.

Finally more than several members of a number of organizations I have talked to have commented on how just how much of their ideals are presented in readily available material, like promotional brochures, open constitutions, creeds, websites, and pledge education materials. On more than one occasion people have agreed with me that careful study of their organizations publications would reveal what their organization held most dear - what was the basis for their secrets. Given that, after hearing/reading this information multiple times during a pledge period, would probably cause one to feel like the secrets werent' very exciting.

All in all, the combination of these things, probably meant that the secrets weren't brand new, and I think that's a good thing. Obviously, a person is going to fit in best with a place that's already in line with their goals, a chapter that is living up to their ideals is going to be doing things that reflect those ideals, and the fraternity movement was greatly helped by opening up to the public and being honest with the goals of the organizations - without this transperancy who knows if our organizations would be as prevalent and strong.

I don't think that anybody's trying to stir isht up with this post -- this is a pretty normal reaction, IMO. After I went through initiation, I can't say that I expected something better, but I definitely expected something different. After studying our rituals more in-depth, I've been impressed by them not only from an emotional standpoint, but from a technical one. Our ritual is not very "showy," but the minutiae of it is pretty amazing -- every time I look through the ritual book again, I'm struck by a new thing that I hadn't noticed or realized before.

And yes, you do get out of it what you put into it. This is why I think it's hard for a lot of fraternity and sorority members to take ritual seriously, because if you're not raised in a church background, we have very little of it in our culture. Many Greeks don't internalize the ritual at all or find ways to apply it to their own lives, which makes it pretty boring and irrelevant to them. Ritual is kind of like religion in that sense.

We sacrifice virgins and goats.

yeah, i agree its a normal reaction. My friend is an AOPi and said she felt the same way and so did i. I was so nervous about initiation because humans are naturally scared of the unknown. But it was fine. And when the secrets were revealed it was kind of like "Oh...that's it?" But really its kind of cool to know things other people don't and can't know.

This thread is treading on dangerous territory. Any discussion about your ritual should be with members of your chapter, or other sister, that you know IN REAL LIFE and not online.

How could our ritual be called boring when we wear our turquoise and steel gray catsuits and circle each other's fat? IT'S GOOD FUN!!!

OMG, we wear red and white catsuits while standing on our heads playing musical instruments!



(the girls who play piano have it really rough)

Eh, you haven't seen fun until you've seen ours, where we all wear the ritual thong...and we're coed! :D

WE only sacrifice virgin goats.

Amateur.