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texas*princess 12-21-2004 01:03 AM

Does anyone know how this works?

I know fraternities (and some sororities.. or even chapters of my own sorority) may do the whole housing thing differently.

In my chapter each woman is agreeing to live in the house for at least one year. If the house is always full, she will not "have" to move in. If there are vacancies, we go through the list of the women who have not fulfilled their obligation and come up with a system to make sure the house stays full.

The house is generally full of exec and other sisters who choose to live there, but it is always full, and if there are vacancies (someone graduates for example) we make sure we have women to fill the spots.

In the case of these fraternities do they have people apply to live there (similar to signing applications and doing that whole process for an apartment) or do they have the option to keep women out if their fraternity's members are in the house and there are no vacancies? That would be a bummer to get kicked out of the house of your own brothers b/c the university wants random girls to live there :(

XOMichelle 12-21-2004 12:40 PM

My friend's father was a Sigma Nu waaaaay back in the day at Wesleyan- apparenlty they got in trouble for initating women on their own. te he he.

Rudey 12-21-2004 12:45 PM

OK this settles it. We are going to go talk to the people at Wesleyan.

Let's set this up:

1) We need a bus. I don't travel on yellow school buses so this better be a nice coach bus worthy of Justin Timberlake.

2) Let me do the talking. I will let these shroom eating, acid dropping, tie dye shirt wearing, curly haired freaks know we're not willing to accept their rules even though we don't go to their school and pay their high fees!

-Rudey

DolphinChicaDDD 12-21-2004 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
OK this settles it. We are going to go talk to the people at Wesleyan.

Let's set this up:

1) We need a bus. I don't travel on yellow school buses so this better be a nice coach bus worthy of Justin Timberlake.

2) Let me do the talking. I will let these shroom eating, acid dropping, tie dye shirt wearing, curly haired freaks know we're not willing to accept their rules even though we don't go to their school and pay their high fees!

-Rudey


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Awesome Rudey, Awesome.
Sign me up! When do we leave?

KSigkid 12-21-2004 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
OK this settles it. We are going to go talk to the people at Wesleyan.

Let's set this up:

1) We need a bus. I don't travel on yellow school buses so this better be a nice coach bus worthy of Justin Timberlake.

2) Let me do the talking. I will let these shroom eating, acid dropping, tie dye shirt wearing, curly haired freaks know we're not willing to accept their rules even though we don't go to their school and pay their high fees!

-Rudey

That's a plan - I'm from CT, so we can all stay at my parents' house. They'll be a little shocked at the amount of people, but there should be enough room for everyone.

Collin
- those of you I don't like can sleep in the attic

PhiPsiRuss 12-21-2004 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
OK this settles it. We are going to go talk to the people at Wesleyan.

Let's set this up:

1) We need a bus. I don't travel on yellow school buses so this better be a nice coach bus worthy of Justin Timberlake.

2) Let me do the talking. I will let these shroom eating, acid dropping, tie dye shirt wearing, curly haired freaks know we're not willing to accept their rules even though we don't go to their school and pay their high fees!

-Rudey

I'm there. Are you going to wear a tie-dyed dress shirt with your suit? You know, just to fit in.

dphies00 12-23-2004 06:06 PM

If we do all go to Wesleyan, to get into the fraternities to talk to the brothers, we'll need to know the answers to these questions:

1) Who was the greatest American president?
2) A shoe appropriate for boating
3) Who killed Jesus Christ?

PhiPsiRuss 12-23-2004 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dphies00
If we do all go to Wesleyan, to get into the fraternities to talk to the brothers, we'll need to know the answers to these questions:

1) Who was the greatest American president?
2) A shoe appropriate for boating
3) Who killed Jesus Christ?

1) Homer Simpson
2) Birkenstocks
3) Jessica Simpson

Xanthuos 12-23-2004 07:14 PM

Perhaps the fraternities can rally the support of their alumni to accomplish what Taualumna suggested, and that is to house a fraternity & sorority in the same "building." The idea is it would be akin to co-ed dormitories segregated by floors, but perhaps separated by walls. :) Since it seems a number of alumni have stopped giving or altered their giving, perhaps those missed dollars can be funneled into the housing corporation(s) of the fraternity (and sorority).

Even better would be to take two houses next to each other, and somehow building a cool tunnel or enclosed walkway between them to join them as "one living complex" haha

Seriously though, you can try forcing fraternities to house women (if they don't already or are opposed to it), but it's gonna work as well as trying to force a democracy on a certain middle eastern country. :rolleyes:

PsiU_EN 12-23-2004 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Alpha Delt is co-ed, but I thought Psi U was also at many schools...no?

-Rudey




Psi U is by chapter, and still women who are brothers are kinda thought as sketchy by the members of all male chapters. There are a couple of stories about women not being allowed into chapter rooms, since some chapters are really sketchy about even letting other people from differnt chapters in them.

IowaStatePhiPsi 12-24-2004 12:51 AM

I think this is the time for the Wesleyan Greek Community to have some special meetings and decide how to meet/beat the system.

Maybe develop plans for their own Greek Row and see if the university would assist in the development.
Coed living, but the basement levels have sound-proofed & locked chapter rooms for each fraternity and sorority.

Perhaps instead of a House Mother, the fraternities will have a House Sister, who belongs to one of the sororities.
After all, from this article it sounds like they can get around this by allowing just one female student to live there.

PhiPsiRuss 12-24-2004 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
I think this is the time for the Wesleyan Greek Community to have some special meetings and decide how to meet/beat the system.

Maybe develop plans for their own Greek Row and see if the university would assist in the development.
Coed living, but the basement levels have sound-proofed & locked chapter rooms for each fraternity and sorority.

Perhaps instead of a House Mother, the fraternities will have a House Sister, who belongs to one of the sororities.
After all, from this article it sounds like they can get around this by allowing just one female student to live there.

The fraternity houses are large, and owned by the university. No greek row can be developed because it would need either university land (redundant, and not going to happen,) or the rezoning of an affluent residential neighborhood (not going to happen.)

PM_Mama00 12-24-2004 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Munchkin03
You all do realize that Wesleyan was the inspiration for PCU, right?
Lol I never knew that! And that's one of my favorite movies of all time.

And, speaking from a campus that has no houses, a GLO doesn't need a house for brotherhood or sisterhood. I can understand that since the boys already have their house, that they might be upset about the changes. But a house is just a roof over their head... there IS a way for a GLO to work without a house.

LightBulb 12-24-2004 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PsiU_EN
There are a couple of stories about women not being allowed into chapter rooms, since some chapters are really sketchy about even letting other people from differnt chapters in them.
What!

Not allowing guests from other chapters... tsk tsk. Disrespectful enough.

But how could you not allow another member of your fraternity chapter into the chapter rooms?

PsiU_EN 12-24-2004 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LightBulb
What!

Not allowing guests from other chapters... tsk tsk. Disrespectful enough.

But how could you not allow another member of your fraternity chapter into the chapter rooms?


We are even sketchy about letting nationals in chapater rooms. It has to do with chapters previous orginizations. Back in the day to become a chapter you had to be a strong local fraternity/orginization. For instance the chapter room is not only the Michigan State's chapter room, its also the Hesperian's chapter room. When we become alumni we become members of the Hesperian society. Alot of the older chapters do this.


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