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KSUViolet06 12-15-2004 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by PM_Mama00
You guys are all being really harsh. Maybe this is a serious thread and she just has no clue about Greek Life. During my pledge period, I was never taught about how after you initiate you cannot deactivate and join elsewhere. Maybe she doesn't feel comfortable going to people in the chapter or if they have a Greek Life advisor there. (we don't have a Greek advisor, just our panhel advisor who's a kick ass Delta Zeta, but many people don't feel comfy talking to her, I think because she has a high position and they are intimidated).

Anyways, maybe she also meant that she was pressured to join, instead of forced. We don't know the whole story, and if I was being "attacked" (for lack of a lesser word) I wouldn't feel comfortable explaining the whole situation.

Lisa... it could help for us to advise you if we knew the whole story without any loose ends. If you don't feel comfortable posting it, you can private message me. I probably don't know as much as the other ladies on Greek Chat about this stuff, but I was once in your position. I stuck with it and it ended up being the best decision I ever made because things got so much better.

I don't think we were harsh at all. She said "forced" and that was all we had to go on. We just didn't want there to be any confusion on the NPC rules, because no matter how crappy of an experience she had, she can't initiate elsewhere. No one was trying to be mean, she asked if there was a loophole and we simply explained the rule. Are we sorry her experience was so crappy? Yeah, that's unfortunate, but a rule is a rule.

kddani 12-15-2004 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by JocelynC
I don't think we were harsh at all. She said "forced" and that was all we had to go on. We just didn't want there to be any confusion on the NPC rules, because no matter how crappy of an experience she had, she can't initiate elsewhere.
that and she changed her story from the other thread she posted when she said she decided that it wasn't for her...

Unregistered- 12-15-2004 07:39 PM

I don't think we were harsh either.

She received WONDERFUL advice the first time she posted her scenario. Only the first time she didn't tell us that she was "forced to" initiate into the sorority.

By her starting up this drama all over again in ANOTHER thread -- not to mention informing us this time around that she was initiated against her own will, one can't help but think that this is suspicious. Like Dani said, if she was initiated at gunpoint or she initiated a la the Sopranos, then she could have had out before I-Day.

I think what pisses people off the most is the fact that she was told over and over again that she cannot initiate into another NPC. What part of that does she not understand that she had to start another thread because a SENIOR NOT IN HER SORORITY misinformed her about some loophole in rushing once again?

She wants to cheat the friggin' system. I don't want any girl who cheats the NPC to wear my letters. That's just plain dishonesty right there.

So Phyllis, if you want to hold her hand and let her know that everything's gonna be okay, just make sure she knows she can't initiate into another NPC sorority. That's all.

KTHXBI.

AChiOAlumna 12-15-2004 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by OohTeenyWahine
I don't think we were harsh either.

She received WONDERFUL advice the first time she posted her scenario. Only the first time she didn't tell us that she was "forced to" initiate into the sorority.

By her starting up this drama all over again in ANOTHER thread -- not to mention informing us this time around that she was initiated against her own will, one can't help but think that this is suspicious. Like Dani said, if she was initiated at gunpoint or she initiated a la the Sopranos, then she could have had out before I-Day.

Okay, maybe I'm missing something...what other thread did this person post in? I missed the "first" posting...

Are we sure this is the same poster? I'm not doubting...just asking...

kddani 12-15-2004 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by AChiOAlumna
Okay, maybe I'm missing something...what other thread did this person post in? I missed the "first" posting...

Are we sure this is the same poster? I'm not doubting...just asking...

yep. you can search for a particular poster's threads, btw.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...threadid=60339

AChiOAlumna 12-15-2004 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by kddani
yep. you can search for a particular poster's threads, btw.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...threadid=60339

Thanks kddani! I guess this is the same person...how interesting...I would've never caught on...

Okay...all credibility has been lost...unless something has happened between the first posting on 12/5 to today's posting...I guess we need to know the whole story first...

Tippiechick 12-15-2004 08:09 PM

I don't see how anyone can be forced into being initiated. You're gonna have to give us more credit. We've all been around the block once or twice. And, a few of us have already heard your first "excuse" for wanting another NPC.

It's all really been said above.

I will add that there are LOTS of us who have been at expensive universities far away from home. But, we didn't try and use that as an excuse for either poor judgement or bad experiences. It's called GROWING UP and TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS. Blaming everyone else and saying they are the reason you are faced with the current undesirable situation is very unbecoming of any NPC member and lady.

Take a step back and think about your words and actions. After reading your posts, I can only say that it is time to lay in the bed you've made. Good luck.

astroAPhi 12-16-2004 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by preciousjeni
I also wanted to play devil's advocate and offer a suggestion. If you are being hazed and you don't know what's happening, it's definitely possible to show up and be forced into initiation without really knowing what's going on.
And then when they ask you to take an oath, pledge, or some other way of asking you to join, you say NO. I'm sure every organization has that somewhere in their initiation ceremony.

kddani 12-16-2004 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by astroAPhi
And then when they ask you to take an oath, pledge, or some other way of asking you to join, you say NO. I'm sure every organization has that somewhere in their initiation ceremony.
If you're being hazed and don't know what's happening- you do actually know what's happening- you're being hazed!

The only way to have a fair excuse that you don't know what's going on would be if you were drugged, and that's pretty far fetched.

Like I said, unless she had a gun to her head, she had a choice.

It's also fairly obvious that this was a fly by poster that doesn't seem to be coming back

Unregistered- 12-16-2004 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by astroAPhi
And then when they ask you to take an oath, pledge, or some other way of asking you to join, you say NO. I'm sure every organization has that somewhere in their initiation ceremony.
Ask Dionysus. She walked out of hers. :p :)

Little E 12-16-2004 05:32 PM

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Originally posted by Little E
OK
You are annoying me.

If you don't like your sorority and cannot find a way to live with it...DEACTIVATE.

Unless I missed something, you are in college for an education, not to be a member of a sorority. I don't care if you were forced, or just regret accepting your bid, but you are locked in with the NPC situation.

Transfer, you don't have to be (npc) greek. There are many other organizations to join. Move ON.

Yes I'm tacky and quoting myself. I still think the same thing

Dionysus 12-21-2004 07:55 PM

This thread has me CTFU. How did I miss this?

I didn't really just up and leave during my initiation, lol. I was escorted out by two actives. Yeah, it's best to decide if you want to stick with the sorority BEFORE you go to initiation. I did express indirectly that I didn't want to go through it. I DID felt pressured to go into initiation, but not forced.

GeekyPenguin 12-21-2004 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Dah for real noooo!@#% :mad: ;) :)

Lay-dee, if that is your nayme, you cannot, re-pete can't, join another NPC! :D

I knew a loser who made his own local!:cool: You kan 2 :) :(

You are so wise.

Dionysus 12-21-2004 08:09 PM

Re: is this possible?
 
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Originally posted by lisap34
A senior(not in my sorority) told me that she thought there was a loop hole for being able to rerush. I was wandering if anyone knew of a situation similar to this and the outcome??
Oh yeah...don't listen to her. A few BITCHES from another sorority told me the same thing. As I was quitting, the president from my sorority told me no. The greek advisor said maybe. I went on GC to ask...and no comment what they told me here. I never found the right answer...and it really doesn't matter now because I graduated.

AnchorAlum 12-21-2004 08:42 PM

When I was active in Alumnae Panhellenic, we found out about a girl who pledged at a school in Cali, did not like it, transferred to a school in Ohio, and without ever formally depledging at her old school, she pledged another NPC group and was initiated at her Ohio school.

Now, no longer being a student may have automatically "de-pledged" her, but we were all confused because some alums from various groups said they considered it a depledging because the girl was no longer a university student, but others insisted that their groups required the pledge to sign a form, and that created the mandatory year long wait, no matter where she was enrolled.

None of us notified either of the groups, because we didn't want to be the"bitches" to tattle on this girl.

I do know this is different for an active, but don't the fraternities have a different scenario?


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