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ZTAngel 09-30-2004 11:15 AM

I'm a firm believer in that people want what they can't have. If drugs were legalized, I don't think we'd have as big of a problem with addiction and overdoses since drugs would no longer be viewed as mysterious and forbidden. It's the same thing as the laws that prevent the US from selling alcohol to people under 21. The countries that do not have as stringet of an anti-alcohol policy as the US do not have nearly the same problems with alcoholism as we do.

Alcohol is just as bad if not worse for you than some of the illegal drugs out there....

Rudey 09-30-2004 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
If drugs were legalized and sold in pharmacies or over the counter, few of us could afford them.

We would all have to buy them from Canadian firms on the internet.

The real question is: would I get more spam about the ganja or about viagra?

-Rudey

DeltAlum 09-30-2004 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
The real question is: would I get more spam about the ganja or about viagra?
Both. One to get you up and the other to mellow you out.

Can you imagine the TV commercials?

Rudey 09-30-2004 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
Both. One to get you up and the other to mellow you out.

Can you imagine the TV commercials?

Yes. Instead of Bob Dole, it will be Clinton.

-Rudey

DeltAlum 09-30-2004 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Yes. Instead of Bob Dole, it will be Clinton.
Nope. They'll look for someone who inhales.

(W?)

KSig RC 09-30-2004 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by _Opi_

Anywho, I still am for illegalizing. Yes they are readily available now, but it will OBVIOUSLY be more when it isnt. I don't see how legalizing it will solve anything. The preventative measures fail now because our criminal justice system are out to get the street dealers instead of targetting the King Pins.


This is conjecture - I don't think any of this is true.

Find a study, or stop passing things like "OBVIOUSLY" as fact, when that point isn't obvious in the slightest.

And "King Pins" aren't being targeted? What about FBI actions in Colombia? Dead DEA agents in Miami might disagree as well . . .

Rudey 09-30-2004 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
Nope. They'll look for someone who inhales.

(W?)

Listen it's puff, puff, pass. He inhaled.

-Rudey

DeltAlum 09-30-2004 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Listen it's puff, puff, pass. He inhaled.
You're wrong. Politicians never lie.

Rudey 09-30-2004 03:09 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
You're wrong. Politicians never lie.
Yeah and that's not my baby.

-Rudey

Diamond Delta 09-30-2004 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
Its about time that Americans look past fear mongers, and be rational. Drugs should be legalized, taxed, and regulated.
Preach!

Diamond Delta 09-30-2004 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by _Opi_
^ You know exactly what I meant. I picked those two as an example. What a way to nitpick! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Anywho, I still am for illegalizing. Yes they are readily available now, but it will OBVIOUSLY be more when it isnt. I don't see how legalizing it will solve anything. The preventative measures fail now because our criminal justice system are out to get the street dealers instead of targetting the King Pins.


ETA: next time, I'll try to be "cool" and name alot of more drugs for you ;)

TYPO:

1) The majority of people incarcerated right now are non-violent drug offenders.
2) legalizing it will a) save tax payer dollars housing a grown man who made the mistake of smoking/buying/ dealing a little weed b) create revenue through taxation and c) partially eliminate a great imbalance in our justice system where poor people (usually your minorities-but not always) get harsher penalties for the same "crime" as their more affluent counterparts. So in essence, it evens things out on that level.
3) part of the revenue raised/ saved can be used for rehabilitation programs or preventative programs that are far more effective in keeping people productive than incarceration.
4) free up MUCH NEEDED law enforcement for important things like oh...I don't know...rape crisis, child abuse, murder, homeland security.....

I am not a drunk and drinking is legal. I am not addicted to porn, gambling or anything else because it is legal. Smoking has been illegal for teens for years now and that hasn't stopped them from doing it all, yet we do not jail our youth for doing it.

Making things legal takes away the glamour, takes away the criminal element and viaolence (when was the last time a man shot another man for simply selling a similar item in the store next door??), introduces the legitimate business and regulates product, condition and safety/health standards that were once not there before.

damasa 09-30-2004 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by _Opi_


Anywho, I still am for illegalizing. Yes they are readily available now, but it will OBVIOUSLY be more when it isnt. I don't see how legalizing it will solve anything. The preventative measures fail now because our criminal justice system are out to get the street dealers instead of targetting the King Pins.


TYPO:

Saying it will obviously be more is a matter of an opinion and not based at all on fact.

Anyway, our criminal justice system fails because if doesn't target street dealers and "king pins" as much as it does everyday average users. We have a serious problem with our criminal justice system when we decide to send drug users to prison instead of sending them to rehab facilities or education clinics. But there is no extra money because it all goes to the war on drugs which OBVIOUSLY hasn't accomplished enough.

cashmoney 09-30-2004 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by Diamond Delta
I am not addicted to porn or anything else because it is legal.

Blow Jobs aren't legal in my state but I don't have to have one everyday.


Sex is legal and it's very addictive.

hoosier 12-21-2005 03:59 PM

http://www.forbes.com/entrepreneurs/...ap2402473.html

Natl. survey of teen usage of drugs, booze, tobaccy:

"The survey results expose the abysmal failure that is the War on Drugs," said Scarlett Swerdlow, executive director of Students for Sensible Drug Policy.

Coramoor 12-21-2005 05:19 PM

Let me say first that I think that drugs should be legal, but am I the only person that sees the irony in this argument while at the same time in another thread I know I've seen some of you bitching about cigs.

It cracks me up to read some the arguments here.

The same laws should apply to drugs as to alcohol. Driving under the influence, being in school under the influence, etc.


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