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AXEAM 09-15-2004 02:37 PM

I believe the one college team that might and I repeat might pull it off would be the Miami Hurricanes.....w/o Brock Berlin as the QB of course.

cashmoney 09-15-2004 03:47 PM

No...there is too much difference. Going from college ball to the league is unlike anything you can imagine. Most guys can't hack it.

Kevin 09-15-2004 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by AXEAM
I believe the one college team that might and I repeat might pull it off would be the Miami Hurricanes.....w/o Brock Berlin as the QB of course.
What are you talking about, there are very few people that even think Miami is the best that CFB has to offer right now.

ThetaLove 09-15-2004 09:44 PM

LSU vs. N.O. Saints........... who knows what the outcome would be. But, it would probably sell more tickets than the Saints have sold lately.

AXEAM 09-16-2004 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
What are you talking about, there are very few people that even think Miami is the best that CFB has to offer right now.
Well just like in most cases a large number of people would be wrong, I based my opinion on the number of players the CANES send to the next level. These players not only excel but become some of the best players in the NFL....not to mention most of them leave college early. The CANES minus a few bumps along the way (NCAA sactions of the mid ninties ) have been the premier
team in College Football for the past 20yrs...thats based on National Championships won and National Champioship games played.

KSig RC 09-16-2004 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by AXEAM
Well just like in most cases a large number of people would be wrong, I based my opinion on the number of players the CANES send to the next level. These players not only excel but become some of the best players in the NFL....not to mention most of them leave college early. The CANES minus a few bumps along the way (NCAA sactions of the mid ninties ) have been the premier
team in College Football for the past 20yrs...thats based on National Championships won and National Champioship games played.



oooooookkkkkkkaaaaaayyyyyy . . .


See, even if the Hurricanes send 50% of their players to the NFL (which is ridiculous), and then 25% of those become starters . . . the WORST NFL team has 100% of these guys, plus more on the bench.

No college team could beat any pro team. It's f-ing ridiculous to think otherwise, b/c the talent disparity is huge - even for Miami.

AXEAM 09-16-2004 11:02 AM

Notice I stated any college team that MIGHT.....and I believe you give the level of talent on the worst NFL team too much credit. Some of those guys are just fillers and meat team projects when...when CANES players come into the league it's to start or get playing time you know too help the team not to be used as an experiment to practice against for next weeks game.

damasa 09-16-2004 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by AXEAM
Notice I stated any college team that MIGHT.....and I believe you give the level of talent on the worst NFL team too much credit. Some of those guys are just fillers and meat team projects when...when CANES players come into the league it's to start or get playing time you know too help the team not to be used as an experiment to practice against for next weeks game.
I think you give the worst NFL team too little credit. These players are pros and not simply fillers. These are teams with talented players that get dominated byteams running a better program.

I think most players that go to the NFL do it with the intent to start being CANES (broken keyboard) or not. The fact is that 99.9% of these players out of college do not and will not start.

Besides, players on the practice squad do help the team. They help to prepare with certain formations on offense and defense.

KSig RC 09-16-2004 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by AXEAM
Notice I stated any college team that MIGHT.....and I believe you give the level of talent on the worst NFL team too much credit. Some of those guys are just fillers and meat team projects when...when CANES players come into the league it's to start or get playing time you know too help the team not to be used as an experiment to practice against for next weeks game.

The Cardinals are the worst NFL team right now, I'll posit (them, or the Chargers) - I would take them by 21 over the CANES (STOP DOING THAT).

How many Miami players from last year are starting right now? What percentage even PLAY in the NFL (even for the worst team)?

You're not even close to on point here. Miami has a handful (ie less than 10) NFL-prospect-level players each season - the Cards have 53. Right now.

The Chargers vs. the CANES would result in approximately 900 yds for LaDanian Tomlinson. FACT! (not really)

KSigkid 09-16-2004 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by AXEAM
Notice I stated any college team that MIGHT.....and I believe you give the level of talent on the worst NFL team too much credit. Some of those guys are just fillers and meat team projects when...when CANES players come into the league it's to start or get playing time you know too help the team not to be used as an experiment to practice against for next weeks game.
Does the Canes third-string play in the NFL...how about most of their second-stringers? Their third-string quarterback?

The fact is that a pro team is full of just that, pros. Many of these guys were studs in college (most of them were, in fact).

The logic just doesn't fly...and not ever Canes player comes in as a star (hello Gino Toretta).

AXEAM 09-16-2004 02:00 PM

It's rather Funny that you mention Gino and forgot about the likes of Micheal Irving, Ray Lewis, Micheal Barrows, Clinton Portis, Warren Sapp, J.Shocky D.Stubbs K. Winslow S.Taylor V.Testeverde and a host of others. Bottom line it's like I stated if any college football team MIGHT have a chance it would be the CANES. Also the fact that you bring up the name of Gino Toretta proves my point some players in the league are just fillers and meat team projects remember the Great Bryan Bosworth. Whoever said that it's a fact that 99.9 % of college players don't start in the league is wrong ...3 out of the six players for the Canes that went pro after last season are going to start this year w/the other 3 projected to be starters in two years maybe sooner...like by mid season of this year.

Kevin 09-16-2004 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by AXEAM
Well just like in most cases a large number of people would be wrong, I based my opinion on the number of players the CANES send to the next level. These players not only excel but become some of the best players in the NFL....not to mention most of them leave college early. The CANES minus a few bumps along the way (NCAA sactions of the mid ninties ) have been the premier
team in College Football for the past 20yrs...thats based on National Championships won and National Champioship games played.

Here's another fact:

Last year, the Hurricanes dropped 2 games. One to Virginia Tech and one to Tennessee. Neither of those teams were anywhere close to the best in college football and they still beat what you're calling "the best".

They had a few decent players. But weren't even the best team in the sport. For that, in '03, you have to go with USC, LSU or (a healthy)Oklahoma.

KSigkid 09-16-2004 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by AXEAM
It's rather Funny that you mention Gino and forgot about the likes of Micheal Irving, Ray Lewis, Micheal Barrows, Clinton Portis, Warren Sapp, J.Shocky D.Stubbs K. Winslow S.Taylor V.Testeverde and a host of others. Bottom line it's like I stated if any college football team MIGHT have a chance it would be the CANES. Also the fact that you bring up the name of Gino Toretta proves my point some players in the league are just fillers and meat team projects remember the Great Bryan Bosworth. Whoever said that it's a fact that 99.9 % of college players don't start in the league is wrong ...3 out of the six players for the Canes that went pro after last season are going to start this year w/the other 3 projected to be starters in two years maybe sooner...like by mid season of this year.
And another fact....Toretta was given the Heisman for the best college football player. Bosworth was a monster of a linebacker and a Heisman contender...they were arguably two of the best players in college football those seasons.

Also...six Hurricanes went pro...out of how many of their players? 50...60...? So, if about 10% of the Hurricanes are pros, and 100% of the Chargers/Cardinals/whoever are pro, I just don't see a defeat happening.

KSig RC 09-16-2004 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by AXEAM
It's rather Funny that you mention Gino and forgot about the likes of Micheal Irving, Ray Lewis, Micheal Barrows, Clinton Portis, Warren Sapp, J.Shocky D.Stubbs K. Winslow S.Taylor V.Testeverde and a host of others. Bottom line it's like I stated if any college football team MIGHT have a chance it would be the CANES. Also the fact that you bring up the name of Gino Toretta proves my point some players in the league are just fillers and meat team projects remember the Great Bryan Bosworth. Whoever said that it's a fact that 99.9 % of college players don't start in the league is wrong ...3 out of the six players for the Canes that went pro after last season are going to start this year w/the other 3 projected to be starters in two years maybe sooner...like by mid season of this year.

Six! hahahahahaa


OK - pro rosters are around 53 position players. Last year's 'canes team had 6 professional-grade players (one of which is a tight end who hasn't made a mark at all yet, but I digress, b/c he's A FUCKIN SOLDIER) . . . they'd get slaughtered by any professional team. They might not beat the Cardinals second-stringers, even with those 6 back.

It's simple math, jackmove.

No one is cutting on your beloved CANES - however, they didn't even beat every college team they played last year, let alone the f-ing Dolphins. No clue how you can overlook this fact.

AXEAM 09-16-2004 04:14 PM

A healthy Oklahoma...yeah right OU is the most overated team in CFB but thats neither here nor there. The CANES did lose two games last year b/c they have an UF flunky for a QB...maybe this year he will be a little better, but I still stand by my statement that if any college team have a chance it would be the CANES. I believe a better way of looking @ this would be that (6) were drafted out of 24 starters who played for Miami thats 25% in it's self plus not to mention that 60% of those 24 starters returned to Miami to play this year. By the way Toretta & Bosworth were not even close to being the best college players during their college days...they were just overated kinda like OU.


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