Thats not saying a lot coming from a 2-step and hardcore fan. :rolleyes:

Its my favoritest club in Ybor!!!!!! Weee!

Only problem was it was a warehouse scene and if you've been in the scene for a while, that got old. People don't really understand what it was like though and I haven't been anywhere that compared to some of the places in NYC. After a while though we were chilling at places like lotus instead and in college centro fly came out and was cool. Now most of the places are played out imo.

-Rudey

I feel ya on the warehouse scene. I was down for it in like 97,98,99....but not anymore. As far as being played out...thats how life goes in this scene...places get played out really quick if you're not doing a constant makeover.

Two-step & hardcore hardly put as many people asleep as trance! And please don't think I'm referring to happy hardcore. Cheesy anthems need not apply here!

And, as previously stated, I'm really a house-head. I just have an appreciation for other genres of music. Back when I was a "raver" I loved my fair share of trance too. I just figured everyone grew out of that trance phase eventually. ;)

lmao! :D When you say two-step...you're speaking of speed garage, right? Out of all the headz I know, only 1 or 2 actually like that stuff. Every time I hear it I wish was def. If you're not referring to happy hardcore...are you then referring to hardcore speed garage?

As for the anthems, I'm all about them when I'm in the mood. Musically, they can get boring in terms of mixing and bpm's etc etc etc. But congrats on being a house head. I know Scott Henry and John Debo personally as well as Deep Dish. They're some of the most admirable DJs out there.

And no, people may stray form trance for a bit...but everyone eventually comes back. ;)

Yes, but have any of you seen "Groove"? :rolleyes: :p

I think it's important to distinguish between a scene being played out and certain types of music. The whole warehouse/electronica/glowstick/xtc thing was popular for about 8 or 9 years, but trendy in like '99. Now, you see a place like that and immediately think it's old school. Yet if I heard a number of those tracks (Oakenfold, Digweed, Sasha all included) I would consider them classics, not played out or "old".

All 3 of those guys moved towards a more pop style. That's why I say they were played out. Twilo was a warehouse essentially with really cool music and it wasn't filled with gross ravers and their jnco jeans. But the problem was that it was a scene filled with a lot of young people who didn't appreciate it and weren't there for that long. A lot of them just wanted loud music and a dark warehouse and that's it. I think sasha and digweed played there once a month or twice, I can't remember. The scene got old because the people wore on your nerves and the music got played out because it was meant to appeal to the masses and not be anything new.

-Rudey

Wow, you are so wrong. Two-step is NOT Speed Garage. And Hardcore is NOT Speed Garage. Speed Garage is AWFUL. No wonder you don't like (real) two-step like the Jungle Brothers or (real) hardcore like Delirium!!! You've never heard it before! Well, that and most people don't like hardcore anyway, but don't you worry-it sounds NOTHING like speed garage (which I would consider DJ Booth's album "Lost in San Francisco a good example of speed garage)!


And my favorite house DJ's would of course be Trevor Lamont, Matthew Bandy, Halo, Jamie Thinnes, the list could probably go on forever!

I don't consider them played out or old either, I just don't like "trancey" music. Give me some beats & I'll be happy! :)

Yo, don't try to get things mixed up in the genre lingo....that shit isnt happening here. Down here in Florida (where the real shit is) two-step is a form of speed garage. There is also another form of speed garage called hardcore and very few DJs in this country play it. I know all my genres through and through. 3 DJs that I know play two-step are DJs Yoda, Blaze and Comic. They're all nice people but their style is worse than my left nut dipped in marinara sauce. ;)

You like break beats?

Florida is where the real shit is? Wow, you better inform the rest of the United States because no one knows that but you! :)

And two-step may have originated from speed garage but it is very much its own genre of music, that sounds nothing like speed garage. Also, the hardcore I speak of is like happy hardcore without the happy-no form of speed garage whatsoever.

Not really. Especially not Florida breakbeats. ;)

[small voice] I like "poppy" trance. [/small voice]

And now I am really confused by all this. I am no expert by any means and this conversation is enlightening but I am lost. I lump basically everything into the category of "Trance" even though I know breakbeats, D&B, etc are not trance at all. And I am into the mainstream artists... because that's all I really know about. Basically I can't stand drum-machine like beats that make my eardrums want to storm out of my ear.

I guess I stay to more of the vocal trance and ambient side of trance/techno/electronica/whatever. Yes... I like the stuff that may put you to sleep. And I like mainstream artists as well. So make fun of me all you want ;) :p I like BT, Oakenfold, Tiesto, 4 Strings, and PVD, but also enjoy Rank 1, Underworld, and a few others I can't think of now. I don't know what these are all classified as but that's what you'll find in my CD collection.

So yee haw, I'm trendy and not afraid to admit it. :D ;) :p