Re: my school
 

it also upsets me that another fraternity would go out of its way to get this group in trouble... sending it directly to the school paper? all this really does is give greeklife a bad image...

i dont know.. [/B][/QUOTE]

It's interesting because I think I've matured a lot since undergrad (well I hope LOL :D). I think many of us at that age are more prone to get caught up in the rivalry BS and not see the damage that could be caused to EVERY GLO down the road. Especially with females, because females are so catty. You know how much drama I saw go on in undergrad that was based on RUMORS and second, third, and eighth degree information?! It also all goes back to the one or two bad apples thread. Overall I think in instances like the one's mentioned PEOPLE ARE NOT THINKING ABOUT CONSEQUENCES and acting impulsively, and not looking out for the greater good, especially the good of their organization.

Isn't it remarkable how many chapters record these things either on film or videotape?

Then we all sit around and talk about how stupid they are/were for taking the pictures?

Of course, if they didn't break the rules, the recordings wouldn't exist and nobody would have to worry about it.

We as Greeks have to Only Look at Alfred College (or Un.) from NY!

There is or was a Greekdom of Locals and National Greeks.

A local did something where a pledge died. All Greeks were So adjuged and were DisPelled, DeChartered or anything else you want to call it.

Greeks Are No Longer There!

So, That is where Risk Management can take you, right or wrong.:(

Doing it is wrong, recording it is stupidity!

Should be gone!:rolleyes:

I understand that hazing is wrong and all of that but on the real, if folks are getting chapters suspended just for having to learn about the organization in which they took interest in and wanted to join, then why the hell should we be initiating people in our orgs. If that's the case, all of us may as well put on a pair of rollerblades with a piece of paper and a pen to write with in our hands. :rolleyes:

Imperial1

You mean we don't do that??

Either that or be expelled.

Imperial1

hazing? what's that?

<---wasn't hazed in anyway...YAY!!!!

:cool:

:D

Imperial1

But if you put the pen in their right hand and they're left-handed, that's hazing (implying there is a correct hand to write with). What are you trying to do, destroy the whole Greek system? :p

ROFLOL. Yeah FIPG has really made life difficult.

i love that instead of educating chapters about what's hazing, how to identify, prevent and deal with it, nationals just makes these sweeping prohibitions that are indicative of a litigious culture, like no scavenger hunts, no men on bid day (even bands or singing groups!), no tests and even no new member meetings (because 'singling out' a group of sisters = hazing)...how many chapters have programming on hazing that's more than once a year? if there was more contact and control over chapters - or we refused to initiate idiots or sadistic morons into our system - we wouldn't have to ban the stupid stuff that obviously isn't hazing :p

Yeah. The only thing you can say in defense of the National(s) is that the hazing laws in every state are probably completely different, but all encompassing and vague, so, out of self defense, the national organization just bans everything that could be even close to hazing under the most liberal definition.

Shoot, it was destroyed before the system was even created. Cause somebody's name didn't have the first letter in their name capitalized. lol

Imperial1

While many make light of the Hazing Laws, it is not really funny HAHA! Is is funny Sad.

Things have become so P C simply for the fact that Insurance and Law Suits have become the vogue that one must ask, who in the heck can afford it.

Yes, it has become so damn ridiculous that no it is not funny!

Certain things need to be deleted from each Greek Organization, but to not have New Members Learn about Your Greek Organization, Chapter History and studying to make GPA to Be Initiated and stay Active. Now, I just feel, there is a cause to draw the line.:mad:

Isnt the reason that people go to college is learn and graduate?

That's so true. Things are definitely starting to go overboard. Technically making someone where a pledge or new member pin is hazing. Personally, I think it's respecting the organization in which you hope to become a member.