Concur.

I knew Ms Jones was going to be in someone's face because when Robbins was introduced, her eyes were down and she looked like she was gritting her teeth. Not a happy lady.

Usually, when someone pushing a book is in the last 5 minute slot of a talk show, it's the result of an ambitious author's agent and a desperate show producer trying to fill a slot to avoid questions about dead air. No one really has an agenda. I thought that would be the case here until Barbara opened her pie hole and took advantage of the "personal commentary" license in the show.

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I never liked the view. I found them to be very one sided about everything. They are hardly journalists.

Joy just said that it was about sorority greeks not Greek people. She didn't say if she was or wasn't in a sorority.

Barbara was clearly anti-sorority. Elizabeth was relieved they didn't have sororities at her college.

I thought that Starr said explicitly that she is an AKA. I could have sworn I heard her say that. Robbins then emphasized the difference between Black and White sororities. Joy asked about racism in sororities. Is the racism in the black or white sororities? Starr stated that there were white members in her sorority.

Exactly.
This isn't a "news" show. It's all about the commentary w/ any incidental "news" used as a launching point. Like any magazine show whether it's Larry King or Bill O'Reilly if you're looking for neutrality this isn't the place.

I worry at times whether the average joe/josephine knows the difference....

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Thanks to those who've posted so far, and thanks in advance to those who haven't posted yet. So Joy's Greek...it's funny, I never thought to connect her to GLOs at all...she gives off a non-conformist attitude somehow.

Joy is a DZ alumna. I didn't see it, but I'm disappointed in the comments posted so far. I can't believe someone as smart as Meredith would buy the viewpoint based on one obviously unbalanced book to form her opinion of sororities as a whole. I thought she was more open-minded than that. Hmmm.

I too heard her say she was AKA and then they were talking about racism and she said well I am AKA and we have been the nations oldest black sorority since whatever date she said, sorry AKAs I thought she said like 1809 or something, but Im not good at dates so sorry in advance. She def said she was one and that AKA has white girls in their org too. She didnt say it being mean or anything. I think she was just stating in the org she belongs to they arent racist and then stating they have been here a long time. I dont think she got into the "white" orgs because I think she is open minded and didnt want to start something. She didnt look too happy with Robbins.

Good LORD will this ever go away? the book isn't like a thriller or must-read or anything (well, besides for Greeks and people interested in the system...or interested in bashing it, and even then...)...i bought it and read it because i saw Robbins on the Today Show and i thought that it might be interesting but lately it seems like it's been getting more and more press - i saw it at Barnes and Noble this weekend on a huge display when you first walk in...Yeah, the View is not exactly the best show on TV either, i mean all of those women talking at once makes you go "Huh?" since you can't hear any of them! Plus, it's interesting that no one has mentioned Robbins giving a disclaimer about her only investigating one sorority, etc...which is just further proof as to why organizations choose not to talk to the press, everything just gets stereotyped all over again! :rolleyes:

I wish I could have seen this. :(

I'm sure this has been discussed, but how does Ms. Robbins know what goes on in hist. black sororities as opposed to hist. white ones?

Granted, she did go undercover during an NPC rush, and is basing her findings off of that ONE experience, but what is she basing her experience with hist. black sororities from? Heresay?

Sorry to hijack the thread. I may need to go back and reread all "THE PLEDGED" threads because I may have missed that one.

ETA: Boo @ Joy for not sticking up for her sorority (or sororities in general).:o

Are you sure Joy is a DZ? I have been trying to find out for sure, but I can't find her on the DZ website. I ask because Joy didn't mention any affiliation so it makes me wonder if she is really greek.

So is there any point in e-mailing Meredith, Barbara, et al to regale them with the good things about sorority life & begging them not to base their opinions on a book that is hardly based on science? (I still want to know where her "80% sorority women have eating disorders" statistic came from).

I took wonder about the 80% garbarge I was like what the? I mean I was in my sorority for 4 years and Ive seen people have eating disorders but in general in HS and college, I really cant say I know of anyone from my sorority.

Like I said before its not like she talked and interviewed every org. She is looking to make everyhting bad. I wish we could get her for slander, but we cant. I just think its bad this book is so advertised. I hope it blows over quickly.

When they interoduced her on the View they are like talking about the book and like this book that is causing controversy with sororities everywhere. Im like duh you idiots? Maybe its cause its false. They think though that its cause we are all in some big cover up. They used the word cover up a few times during the interview.

Any DZs out there know for a fact Joy is a DZ? I ask cause I thought if anyone was in a sorority besides Star they would have said something. Everyone else was rude about them and Joy was quiet so maybe she just didnt want to start something.

I wish I could say yes, but it would be wishful thinking.

When someone comes out on a national TV show putting their foot down about how against sororities they are, emails and letters are about as effective at breaking down that barrier as a Chihuahua peeing on the Great Wall of China.

The only way people with these opinions will change them is if they experience the positives of sorority affiliation in their daily lives. They have to SEE w/ their eyes, over and over again, that sorority affiliation is a positive influence on the women involved.

This is why (IMHO) it's important for alumnae to be proud of their GLO affiliation. If people outside of Greek life see the positive impact on you and through you, that will make a better impression than mere words in a letter. (Says the PNAM..... ;) )

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you never know. I'd say do it.

The statistic was that 80% of college women with bulimia are in sororities. She just had a hard time reading it.

Anyway in my continuing search of Joy Behar, she is a graduate of Queens College. Was there a DZ chapter at Queens College in the early to mid 1960's? She was born in 1943 so that would be the time frame.