Wow... for once we agree... yep that's why Canada is Canada... Respect and Equality are pretty much the foundations Canadian law.

Being an "expert" on the Geneva Convention I guess just comes from being a Canadian soldier... after all it is covered during basic training, again in trades training, every year as part of the legal review lectures, again when go to any combat leadership training, and finally before any deployment... so you can't help but become familiar with it...

As for quoting FOX.. wow I remembered a sentence yah for me... it's not like I quoted an entire broadcast... and no I didn't copy and paste (I proud to say I haven't even visited the FOX news website).

I know about beheadings because I witnessed one personally and cleaned up after a half dozen more while with the UN. It is one of the things that I wish I didn't know about....

I know how to fight wars and the military because one I was in the military, two I'm a guide for the UofT War Memorial, three I'm a member of CISS (Canadian Institute of Strategic Studies), and four I have a undergradute degree in Military Science (which is why I'm back in school... not much you can do with that degree).

I now a bit about France because my younger brother lived there for two years (hockey), I have visted four times, and my family has hosted six exchange students from France... I repeat I know a bit, not everything.

I know all about America from the news, newspapers, magazines, radio, internet, history courses, visits from American LCAs, from the Americans in my chapter, visits from US Marines, my yearly visits to my family and friends, from the Fraternity and school conferences... I think it would be hard for you to understand the level of information from the US that your exposed to on a daily basis here in Canada...

As for the psychology... I have taken three years of psychology, anthropology, and sociology as part of my many many years at school.

See Randy when your old like me (as you so often point out) you tend to pick-up a lot of experience and information....

Besides, everybody places value on human life. Me placing greater value on American lives is no different, and makes me no more of a 'terrorist', that me placing greater value on the life of a family member than some schlub on the street. Would I kill someone if it meant the life of my children? Id kill a hundred. People can act as holy as they want when others do so, but if you dont put your own mother ahead of someone else, you have no soul.

You're a terrorist!!!

I can't believe people fight wars. I mean a death is a death so does it matter which side the soldier shoots at? NO!

You are a terrorist good sir!!!

-Rudey
--You are against the Canadian way of life and while Canada can do little about that we'd like you to know that.

See now this makes sense... it is much easier to argue or debate as long as you remain detacted.

When you have a personal investment in the people involved ethical guidlines go out the window (I'm just as guilty)... which is why at least people should be screen in advance (and perhaps druing) foreign deployments to make sure that personal feelings and attatchments are not conflicting with their objectivity. The importance of maintaining or realizing that your objectivity has been compromised is the first step in maintaining it...

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Well RACooper is a liar. He posts lies. He can't think. And it seems that when I expose those lies, my posts get erased but his are kept. You said you would stop talking to me though so I expect you to keep your promise. You are also not a moderator for this forum, so please stick to the forums in which you are.

-Rudey

Geneva Convention: You know nothing about but a couple basic things. You are not an international lawyer. Again please stop acting as if the military (small peanuts) in which you served not even as an officer role prepared you to be an expert on the Geneva Convention.

Fox: You quoted more than a couple words. You post lies about Fox and when you're challenged, you act like you didn't copy and paste from another website.

Forensics: Yes they train forensic scientists by having them experience a beheading once. Once they see it they earn their PhD.

Leading wars: Yes being a tour guide often does prepare you to lead wars. Some prefer to say they learned through many years in the service after actually leading but hey, not everyone is a tour guide or a soldier without rank.

France: You know about France because your brother lived there? Wow. I know about France and American relations because I read on it. I also lived in France...so did my whole family so I one upped you on your "brother".

America: You can see what goes on all you want but again you are not American, don't vote, have no say, nor do we desire to ask your Canadian opinion.

Psychology: First you say you were exposed to the psychology for a couple hours, a couple days a week, a couple months on native populations. Now you have an undergraduate background (hardcore by the way) in several subjects (some not even psychology). Get your story straight RAPooper.

-Rudey
--This post does not violate any Greekchat TOS and exposed the lies which do violate the TOS.

Look Rudey if you have a problem with me why not start a thread? Otherwise why not discuss.. oh I don't know the actual topic of the thread instead of trying to sound oh so very intelligent.


On that note did anyone else watch the news conference today acutally discussing the prisoner "XXX"? More questions were raised other than the highly questionable detition (I mean come on 7+ months?)... like for instance the fact that this high value prisoner wasn't questioned or interogated other than when he was first captured? I mean come on if your going to break or push the bounds of international law at least make it worth it :rolleyes:

PS> Did anyone else think that the lawyer hated being put on the spot by Rumsfeld when the question of what a timely manner in logging prisoners was.

Not as a moderator, but a member of GreekChat, with the same rights as other members, I would like to be able to read and post messages without being offended.

There are some posts which, in my opinion, violate the letter and spirit of the TOS.

As a member, it is my right to object to them and to hope that something is done about them.

The fact that a number of members and moderators choose not to enter into discussions that they might normally enjoy is regrettable. The fact that some members have chosen to leave GreekChat entirely because of their treatment in this particular forum (Politics) is a travesty.

DA, there's a saying that gets used (a lot) in our undergrad chapter around Rush time: "Gentlemen never discuss religion or politics with strangers".

It's because even people who are normally good people often have VERY strong opinions about certain things and often have a tough time maintaining decorum. That's often the case here. I'm not saying it's right, but it's to be expected.

KT,

I've heard that before. However, Fraternity Men are supposed to be gentlemen -- at least in public.

I am the best of gentlemen.

In other news, the terrorist was held. Everyone values their lives more than the other side's. He will get rights when and if he qualifies for them. Should the military choose to put his head in a vice and turn it until he talks, I see it fitting.

-Rudey

Just because being a Fraternity Man is sometimes sufficient to remind you to be civilized in discussion does not mean that it will always happen.

Although it should.

I agree. When you choose to be a terrorist and attempt to deprive others of their right to live, in my mind, you give up your rights. You become a non-person.

The terrorsists made a choice to commit their evil acts and deprive others of freedom, life, and comfort.... so we (the rest of the world) must make sure that we do not make the same choice and deny others those rights. The terrorists must be caught and subject to the full power of the law, so that people in the region see that the law has power and applied equally.. now if they are tried under Iraqi or US law the maximum penalty is death so I don't see the problem with staying in the bounds of the law. The problem arises if they are captured and tried under the law of the only other main partner in the coalition.. the UK does not support the death penalty and hasn't for years even in the face of terrorism.