Just look at it this way. Boys are stupid. Throw rocks at them. Maybe, if you hit one of them in the head, you'll knock some sense into them.

Its also a matter of quality guys approaching. Anyone can get hit on, beautful or ugly, but in bars lets take a look at most of the guys doing the macking. Most quality guys in bars won't try to pick up girls. They are either intimitadated, afraid, or won't date a girl they meet in a bar. I think no matter how you look its hard to meet a good guy. But I definitly think being the extreme will hinder you. I've guy friends that specifically date average girls, because they think those girls care able to be trusted more since they are average in the looks department :eyeroll:

Maybe I can use this thread to console myself when I consider that I can count on my fingers the number of times I've been asked out. :)

Jules, when you come to Milwaukee this summer, let's make ourselves ugly and then go out to the bars and see if this works.

We can report our findings on GC.

I'm so happy I don't have this problem!!!
:rolleyes:

Is it possible to make ourselves fugly?

KIDDING.

I think this is a subject definitely worthy of Harem field research. I know who can do our makeup ;)

TERRIBLE! but I'm so there.

You'll still be a baby, youngun.

NO BARS FOR YOU.

She might be a youngin - BUT I'M NOT!!! Indiana is close enough to Wisconsin - I'm in :) But please, that makeup would repel men, not attract them, we want to be average, not hideous :P ;)

And i have definitely seen this problem in action... I have this absolutely drop dead gorgeous friend, we'll call her Sara. Sara never dated much in high school and when she got to college she didn't have much luck either. Sure guys would hit on her at parties and in bars, ask for her number, and all that good stuff (but she didn't go home with them - maybe that's the problem? she's gorgeous and not a slut) when it came down to it these guys would never call her. Sara seriously began thinking she was ugly (so far from the truth) and when a guy finally did show interest in her, she held onto him for dear life and stayed in a crappy relationship b/c she thought no other guy would want her.

Jules, I think you and your friends are correct in your theory.

I have talked about this with people also. Being beautiful can be a liability in some ways. And keep in mind that beautiful and hot are different. Hot can be a combination of dress and attitude and sends a highly sexual message.

Beautiful is something else again.

ITs a tension thing. You know how when you really like someone you feel tense around them at first? Self conscious etc?

Well beauty inspires that at first sight. Especially if the person does not normally date beautiful women. IT can be quite daunting. Alcohol tends to uhm . . . lower tension levels making it easier to talk to these girls, but you have to sober up some time and maybe the next day you feel less than confident.

It would probably help if the girl actually kissed him or something before the night was over.

Isn't the same thing true with girls also? I have been in great-shape, in horrible shape and everywhere in between. . .

And I can honestly say that I probably have gotten the most amount of actual girls coming up to me when i was closest to just being average.

Which made no sense to me at all until another girl said it had to do with intimidation.

So actually for a really beautiful girl it might pay her to dress down a little when she goes out. She is already there, she doesn't need to heighten it, and more guys will find her approachable.

Also, there is something about a girl in Full-Girl-Armor, make-up, dressed to kill, proper accecories that makes her seem a little less aproachable.

Kind of like girls telling me that its somehow easier to approach guys that don't tuck their shirts in lol . .. .

co-sign

I'm far from "TOO good looking". However, it is strange whenever I go to places, the girls who are uglier and BITCHIER, get hit on more than me. I think a variation of this is when you look your worst, guys hit on you the most. Whenever I'm wearing my glasses, a baseball cap, and no make-up, guys tap on my windshield for phone #s at drive thrus. Whenever I go to homecoming and other places where I dress extremely well NO guy hits on me. :mad: :mad: :mad:

yeah, you're nice on the eyes...

:D

I agree with this! When you dress to the nines, it's more like you're dressing for the girls. And the times where you just throw on any old thing, minimize the accessories, etc... you have to beat the guys off with a stick. Why is that? Maybe guys just don't like chandelier earrings? :)

See I explain that in the last part of my long post. :p

I think most guys feel that girls overdo it on makeup and hair. I think it has to do with confidence and appearing comfortable in your own skin. A guy friend told me he doesn't trust girls who wear a lot of makeup because he's afraid they may be scary to wake up next to. If a girl goes easy on the makeup, then a guy has a decent idea of what she'll look like in real life.


Guys?? :confused: