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Senusret I

04-11-2004 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
I am totally confused. :confused:

Maybe she means they don't find out who their "specs" are until after they cross.

preciousjeni

04-11-2004 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by msn4med1975
I was with you to the paper/real mention. So is a lack of formal show equal to being considered paper?

Not at all. I was reaching on that one, trying to think of a tradition debate that people could relate to. :)

TheEpitome1920

04-11-2004 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by preciousjeni
As I said, different members feel different ways about it, BUT as a national organization, not participating in a coming out does not bar you from membership. At that point, you're already a member. I'm sure all organizations have traditions that members having differing opinions about, right? Without going too far into the paper/real debate, I must say that I wouldn't ever consider anyone to be paper. If you are my Soror, you just are, no matter what brought you to me. That's just one of those things people don't necessarily agree on.

While that is true, outsiders should never know whats going on inside your house.

I'm also confused about the the "paper/real" debate. I didn't think newer organizations would have this conflict...

preciousjeni

04-11-2004 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
While that is true, outsiders should never know whats going on inside your house.

I understand where you're coming from.

WhirlwindTNX

04-11-2004 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by preciousjeni
As I said, different members feel different ways about it, BUT as a national organization, not participating in a coming out does not bar you from membership. At that point, you're already a member. I'm sure all organizations have traditions that members have differing opinions about, right? Without going too far into the paper/real debate, for example, I must say that I wouldn't ever consider anyone to be paper. If you are my Soror, you just are, no matter what brought you to me. That's just one of those things people don't necessarily agree on.

Exactly! You are a member once you've crossed, whether you want to participate in a "coming-out shows" or not. I don't know if there is a difference in our opinions, just a misunderstanding. :)

Epitome: I misunderstood what you were saying. What I was refering to was that we don't allow people to wear letters before they are actually members.

starang21

04-11-2004 02:28 PM

one of our neo's came out a few weeks ago at a party....folks was hoppin and carrying on, they stopped the party, and did the show. same thing for my kid brother. stopped the party, they brought him in and he was OUT!!!!

starang21

04-11-2004 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by Senusret I
Maybe she means they don't find out who their "specs" are until after they cross.

evidently, we're operating on two different definitions of spec's because that's not what i got from it. i thought the neos were just being hush in order to surprise the campus.

Senusret I

04-11-2004 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
evidently, we're operating on two different definitions of spec's because that's not what i got from it. i thought the neos were just being hush in order to surprise the campus.

She said: "the people they recruit do not know who they are being recruited by until the day of the coming out 'party.'"

Knowing that some NPHC chapters don't reveal the spec's until after they cross, her statement makes sense to me.

starang21

04-11-2004 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by Senusret I
She said: "the people they recruit do not know who they are being recruited by until the day of the coming out 'party.'"

Knowing that some NPHC chapters don't reveal the spec's until after they cross, her statement makes sense to me.

well, you're using the word spec for neo or new members, then. i always thought a spec was someone in another organization who you thought was special to you. i got a few spec's in the sororities.

starang21

04-11-2004 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
I'm also confused about the the "paper/real" debate. I didn't think newer organizations would have this conflict...

lol, wrong venue.........

Senusret I

04-11-2004 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
well, you're using the word spec for neo or new members, then. i always thought a spec was someone in another organization who you thought was special to you. i got a few spec's in the sororities.

I am using "spec" synonymously with "personal."

starang21

04-11-2004 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by Senusret I
I am using "spec" synonymously with "personal."

hey, if that's how you define it. all of the greeks that i know used spec as that way i'm defining it.

Senusret I

04-11-2004 03:06 PM

Good for you. :)

msn4med1975

04-11-2004 03:22 PM

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This may be an issue of semantics but it's the recruiting that's throwing me off. If she had said they don't know which member was assigned or chose to be their big sister/brother or special I would have followed. But the whole paragraph was just strange to me.

starang21

04-11-2004 03:25 PM

actually, i take that back..not always in another organization.

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