What is someone *inside* the University is a member of a GLO? Are they allowed to provide a reference? And what about Stanford alumni? And can alumni be considered part of the university? For example, serve on alumni advisory boards or part of alumni development etc.

Down , killer!

It's really not a big deal guys. Honestly, I don't think the chapters would want the bother of getting recs. It's a lot easier for chapters, advisors, and the university to have this small small teeny tiny rule. I mean, if a chapter got a rec, they wouldn't be punished! Also, since people are so anti-greek here anyway, if PNM's thought that they need reccommedations it would scare them off.

As for making the chapters local, you are all on the national side of that debate, so don't play stupid.

Duh? ;)

Seriously, I'm sure they don't want to get rid of nationals and piss off alums, but I can understand why national groups that make great use of recs (as the groups there all are) would be a little agitated at being told they can't.

Um, a member of a GLO is responsible for picking membership, so yes to your first question. As for alumni, if an alum really wanted their little sisters best friend to be a Theta, I'm sure they could contact Theta and make their opinion known. However, Theta would need to evaluate the girl on the characteristics they know the girl has (we rush in April, so this isn't tough).

As for alumna of the chapter, advisors are critical to the selection process, and actually do the bid matching along with the University's greek advisors and the computer program. This clause makes sure they follow what the membership wants when dealing with all that stuff. However, the head advisors know that and have the interests of the girls at heart always.

So... I don't really understand the uproar. Most of the chapters don't even know this rule exists, since most members don't bother to read the ISC constitution (I didn't until I started tohelp out the advisors). All they know is that we don't scare PNM's by using recs. Like I said before, a lot of PNM's would drop if they thought they were required, it would have scared me for sure!!

The rule of providing recs for each girl isn't sacred, and a lot of times causes chapter advisros to run around trying to find someone who will write a rec for someone at the last minute. Especially at a University where no one would get them on their own, this makes a lot more sense.

From what I know about Stanford the greek system is small enough that not being able to take recs isn't really a big deal... I mena it's an old university so there are quite a few alums and things.... but having grown up 5 minutes away from Stanford and going to school 40 minutes away I can tell you Northern Cali is a fairly liberal area where GLOs at MOST schools around here have to work pretty damn hard to get people to want to go greek anyway... so I really dont' think Stanford's rule is hindering them...


BTW RIF and REC are *slightly* different in my mind, at least at my school Panhell. is in charge of getting the RIFs from the girls and distributing them to chapters, recs would be seperate forms direct from an alum. It seems Stanford's rule stops both of these however.