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DELTABRAT 12-23-2003 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by AKA4MJ
I agree, I personally do not see anything wrong with them. It's hard for folks to accept it when kids grow up. Hey, I give her props, you went to Spelman and got her degree, and you haven't heard about her being out there either.

Hey DELTABRAT, that's your Soror, right? :D


Right..right.

I say screw Mr. Cosby. She shows them the utmost respect when she is referring to them (he and Phylicia Rashaad) but she is grown. And unless they are pulling strings to get her to take over as the new "black Ms. IT" then what can they say? What can anyone say? She's beautiful.

lostnfound117 12-23-2003 03:43 PM

Re: Rudy
 
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Originally posted by pinkice9
This is something that Lisa Bonet (Denise) would do, not her. That's why Bill took her off the show because she showed her body in the movie Brave Heart or something like that.

Do you guys think this is a bad or good represention of a black sorority woman?


being rudy's soror, i am very disappointed in her, and i do not believe that she represented herself well. i am glad she wasn't nude, but who knows in this day and age, i'm sure it's coming. i mean, look how britanni and christina act. rudy may have needed the publicity or something to boost her career.

b/c she went to school here in atlanta, i have heard so many rumors about her: being gay, smoking weed, being very promiscuous...you'd hope it wouldn't be true.....my good friend went to copelands (here in atlanta) on sunday nite, and said that rudy was there promoting this magazine spread...i think it is just kind of a no name magazine. she also said rudy was hugged up and holding hands with some woman.....

nikki1920 12-23-2003 03:49 PM

Her name is Keisha, not Rudy.. lol.

Maybe she just wanted to do something to disassociate herself from that CHARACTER. The woman is grown, I say let her do whatever she wants as long as she is not hurting anyone and is not being exploited.

DELTABRAT 12-23-2003 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by lostnfound117
being rudy's soror, i am very disappointed in her, and i do not believe that she represented herself well. i am glad she wasn't nude, but who knows in this day and age, i'm sure it's coming. i mean, look how britanni and christina act. rudy may have needed the publicity or something to boost her career.

b/c she went to school here in atlanta, i have heard so many rumors about her: being gay, smoking weed, being very promiscuous...you'd hope it wouldn't be true.....my good friend went to copelands (here in atlanta) on sunday nite, and said that rudy was there promoting this magazine spread...i think it is just kind of a no name magazine. she also said rudy was hugged up and holding hands with some woman.....

Soror, while I respect your opinion, I think that this could be much worse. So what if she is gay, so what if she smoked weed. I just have issues passing judgment and we don't know what this sistah is going through.

At first I though the question would be about the representation of Black women and I read it as such, which is ironic. When I looked back it said Black sorority women. Why not Black women who attened Spelman? I am sure there are a few Deltas/AKAs/SGRjos/ZPhiB women shaking that a$$ for cash somewhere in the world. Sistahs from Spelman who had to do an thang or two to make ends meet. I just take issue with the whole judgmental. thing. It's not like she has on letters or has a DST tattoo or something like that. Truth be told, not many people outside the BGLO/HBCU world even know this woman is a Delta and probably don't care. She did the right thing by going to college and not just staying in Hollywood. Now the bar is raised and if she wants to get in she might have to take a photo or two.

I take issue with the fact that we feel like we have to do these types of things to be and or stay in the industry that wants to typecast and stereotype us anyways not that she actually succumed to the pressure.

Finally, the fact that these photos are then "linked" to her perhaps being a lesbian/bisexual is not cool (IMHO). In Atlanta where one out of 50 African American males is HIV positive, hell she gotsta get her rocks off somehow.

abaici 12-23-2003 03:56 PM

Re: Rudy
 
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Originally posted by pinkice9
This is something that Lisa Bonet (Denise) would do, not her. That's why Bill took her off the show because she showed her body in the movie Brave Heart or something like that.

The Lisa Bonet movie is called Angel Heart.


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Do you guys think this is a bad or good represention of a black sorority woman?
I'm pretty conservative, but I did not have a problem with it. I guess because she is in THE BUSINESS. As Soror Lovely noted, this could have been ALOT worse. It's not that bad. Frankly, I understand why she did it...people still see her as Rudy.

ladygreek 12-23-2003 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by lostnfound117
i had posted this in another thread, but it was taken down. i am kind of surprised at rudy, but i guess you gotta do what you gotta do. wonder what mr. cosby thinks aobut all of this!!!
Yes, your post was taken off DST Boulevard because it was felt that it was not appropriate. We do not know by whom or for what those pics were taken. But I feel, and I expressed it to CT4, that we should leave the distribution of these pics to Keisha's "people" for whatever the intent was. And I have asked sorors on various email listserves to not propogate the distribution of them because we do not know their original intent. We can do nothing about others distributing them. but we can police ourselves.

You say you are disappointed in her, yet you posted another one of the pics here. I don't get it.

nikki1920 12-23-2003 04:09 PM

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Deltabrat, I am in complete agreeance with you. I know of some women who've resorted to stripping to pay for school. Its good money, from what I've seen. (NO, I HAVE NOT DONE THAT!! lol) It is not anyone's position to knock what someone else is doing, unless you are footing that person's bill or something.

I wish people could separate the CHARACTER from the PERSON. Rudy didnt graduate from Spelman, Keisha did. Rudy is fiction. SHE AINT REAL, FOLKS!! lol

And re: repping a Black Sorority member, I've seen PLENTY of _____ (insert org. here) doing all kinds of vile things, IN LETTERS. Keisha taking some "risque" photos and not showing her letters is not vile, IMO. Now, if she had on some pasties and a feather, with DST sheets, then I'd be a little miffed, and I am a Zeta.

Pardon me, Sistagreeks of Delta, if I've overstepped myself.

CountryGurl 12-23-2003 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by nikki1920
I wish people could separate the CHARACTER from the PERSON. Rudy didnt graduate from Spelman, Keisha did. Rudy is fiction. SHE AINT REAL, FOLKS!! lol

I agree!!!;)

Professor 12-23-2003 04:36 PM

Let Rudy Drop it like its hot - back it up - back it up back it up - lol

Seriously, I think the pictures are in good taste. Unfortunately, I can only see her as a child as I watched her as a young girl. Now that she certainly is WOMAN, I find it hard - no pun intended, to see her otherwise. These pictures are like watching my brother's kids. She looks good but again, its like looking at a child.
Perhaps young kids will see what I can't in her.

lostnfound117 12-23-2003 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by DELTABRAT
Soror, while I respect your opinion, I think that this could be much worse. So what if she is gay, so what if she smoked weed. I just have issues passing judgment and we don't know what this sistah is going through.

At first I though the question would be about the representation of Black women and I read it as such, which is ironic. When I looked back it said Black sorority women. Why not Black women who attened Spelman? I am sure there are a few Deltas/AKAs/SGRjos/ZPhiB women shaking that a$$ for cash somewhere in the world. Sistahs from Spelman who had to do an thang or two to make ends meet. I just take issue with the whole judgmental. thing. It's not like she has on letters or has a DST tattoo or something like that. Truth be told, not many people outside the BGLO/HBCU world even know this woman is a Delta and probably don't care. She did the right thing by going to college and not just staying in Hollywood. Now the bar is raised and if she wants to get in she might have to take a photo or two.

I take issue with the fact that we feel like we have to do these types of things to be and or stay in the industry that wants to typecast and stereotype us anyways not that she actually succumed to the pressure.

Finally, the fact that these photos are then "linked" to her perhaps being a lesbian/bisexual is not cool (IMHO). In Atlanta where one out of 50 African American males is HIV positive, hell she gotsta get her rocks off somehow.


well, i'm sorry for having an opinion.

i believe i was under the impression that gc was a forum for interesting diaologue,and i found it interesting that keisha/rudy would pose for these types of photos. yes, i was shocked and disappointed when i saw and posted the photos on friday just b/c i just didn't think that she would have posed for pics like this and kind of felt bad that she may have needed to do this to boost her career. not that their bad, i was just shocked, that's all. i am disappointed in her b/c she will always be the little girl from the cosby show and i wish she could take some other outlet to build her career. but as i said in my earlier post, i guess you gotta do what you gotta do.

also, i know her name is keisha, but the title of the thread was "rudy from the cosby show"...it was only light humor in referring to her with that name....

i, in no way, said that these pics had anything to do with her being a lesbian. actually, i dont give a damn if she is a lesbian or not. i only shared something with my fellow greek chat "friends" that was shared with me...i don't know her from jack, so i dont' know the validity of any rumors i hear....so, kill me for sharing....

ladygreek, i simply posted the other photo because i saw it and wanted to post it. i hadn't gotten any of your emails saying not to propogate these photos...

i am very hurt by this outlash for voicing an opinion, but it is cool...you learn human nature throughout life. it's been real! I'M OUT!

Rudey 12-23-2003 05:25 PM

Rudey does not approve of Rudy.

-Rudey
--I've been calling every girl a burger since I saw cockroach do it.

Senusret I 12-23-2003 07:19 PM

Am I the only one who has a hard time believing that those pictures are REALLY Keisha Knight-Pulliam? They seem so airbrushed...her head almost disproportionate to the size of her body.

That said, if the photos are indeed of her, I am very disappointed. Call me conservative, but that's how I feel.

Now, on the other hand, I was not, and am not disppointed in Lisa Bonet's nudity in Angel Heart. She was an actress portraying a role, not posing in a magazine with little to no substance. Also, Lisa Bonet's personality as a public figure wasn't as wholesome as Keisha's -- and I am talking about post adolecsent Keisha.

I mean....we can talk about women in "the industry".....but I dunno....I've never seen provocative pictures of Ruby Dee....

starang21 12-23-2003 07:39 PM

i commented on this on another greek board, she's so dayum fine. i heard she's VERY proportionate.

DELTABRAT 12-23-2003 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by lostnfound117
well, i'm sorry for having an opinion.

i believe i was under the impression that gc was a forum for interesting diaologue,and i found it interesting that keisha/rudy would pose for these types of photos. yes, i was shocked and disappointed when i saw and posted the photos on friday just b/c i just didn't think that she would have posed for pics like this and kind of felt bad that she may have needed to do this to boost her career. not that their bad, i was just shocked, that's all. i am disappointed in her b/c she will always be the little girl from the cosby show and i wish she could take some other outlet to build her career. but as i said in my earlier post, i guess you gotta do what you gotta do.

also, i know her name is keisha, but the title of the thread was "rudy from the cosby show"...it was only light humor in referring to her with that name....

i, in no way, said that these pics had anything to do with her being a lesbian. actually, i dont give a damn if she is a lesbian or not. i only shared something with my fellow greek chat "friends" that was shared with me...i don't know her from jack, so i dont' know the validity of any rumors i hear....so, kill me for sharing....

ladygreek, i simply posted the other photo because i saw it and wanted to post it. i hadn't gotten any of your emails saying not to propogate these photos...

i am very hurt by this outlash for voicing an opinion, but it is cool...you learn human nature throughout life. it's been real! I'M OUT!

Soror, I believe that I started my post with a declaration of respecting your opinion. That said, there is no need to apologize for having said opinion. I think you took everything personal because I don't think anyone was addressing you when the "her name is Keshia" was put out there. Hell, everyone is calling her Rudy. I also think that in retrospect, you may not have been associating her photos and rumors of her being a lesbian/bisexual but I don't think that it was way off base for me to think that you were since the latter was mentioned in response to this thread. I'm sorry if it seemed like an outright personal attack.

RE: the provocative pictures of Ruby Dee, good point. I don't however, think that when Ruby and Ossie started out the same "types" of pressures were present as they are today. We have always been under pressure to conform, etc., but in this day and age, I think it is different. I haven't seen provocative photos of Angela Bassett either and she seems to be working for the approval of the same audiences as Ruby Dee (somewhat), basically, the Black audience...less "mainstream." I have seen provocative photos of Halle Berry. I think when you are trying to get the white folks' approval or a sh%#load of duckets/dollars, anything is possible. Kudos for Ruby Dee for giving them the finger, same for Angela B. Something is going on with the Vivica's, etc. and that's the problem.

abaici 12-23-2003 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by Senusret I
Now, on the other hand, I was not, and am not disppointed in Lisa Bonet's nudity in Angel Heart. She was an actress portraying a role, not posing in a magazine with little to no substance. Also, Lisa Bonet's personality as a public figure wasn't as wholesome as Keisha's -- and I am talking about post adolecsent Keisha.
True. But, it's her prerogative to change her image if she wants to.


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I mean....we can talk about women in "the industry".....but I dunno....I've never seen provocative pictures of Ruby Dee.... [/B]
I seriously doubt she has aspirations of a career similar of Ruby Dee's. But, who knows. It's a sad fact that few women can succeed in Hollywood without showing skin. I wish it wan't that way, but it's now. How can we change that, I don't know.


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