LOL all those interested should pledge and find out

What if one is already a Sigma or Zeta and doesn't know because they didn't cross pledge with "the firm?"

Old post by a random but there was no reason for Delta (and any org besides the ones involved) to even be mentioned in this thread.

Trying too hard.

ultimately it comes down to, to each his own, i have a lot of love for my letters and I'm proud to be a part of the firm

Co-sign. I'm surprised at her (old) comment too. As large as SLG is, she should have let her "argument" stand on its own merits rather than try to undercut other organizations.

But yea, this FIRM business gets out of hand sometimes. There are some people on my campus who act like they pledged FIRM rather than their respective organizations :rolleyes:

^Why is there an ODPhi talking on here then...

FIRM down here in Arizona is recognized but loosely based. Us Betas and the local Sigmas grip together, the Zetas and Gammas cross pledge, and were always supporting eachothers events.

Nationally tho, SLB and SLG arent everywhere, and so FIRM isnt always known or recognized, as relations may be sour or orgs nonexistant. SLB is only is 26 states right now, which is nowhere near the Sigmas or Zetas reach, and SLG is somewhere around 27.

Why shouldn't he talk on here?

For the same reason Sigmas, Zetas, Betas, Gammas, and an Alpha are posting -- it's a PUBLIC DISCUSSION BOARD.

You're picking some interesting threads to bump :rolleyes:

...sums up my thoughts on this whole topic...can't believe I haven't seen this thread before. :p

I am a sister of Sigma Lambda Gamma, i can attest to the idea, and fact that sigma lambda gamma, sigma lambda beta, and phi beta sigma have very similar elements, when it comes to their processes. I can attest to this through my own process, in which i have LB's, and LC's (LC meaning line cousin, since we were pledged together, i.e cross set.) As a result, some details of our processes are shared, since they are part of all three orgs process. I have also, since becoming a sister in Fall 06, witnessed, and pledged, some now sisters of zeta phi beta.

With much respect, it is understandable that this "royal family" relationship is not known by everyone, since every campus that has slg, does not have pbs, zpb, and slb. etc. However, i do ask that people keep open minds.

I kept an open mind when the sigmas at my school were the ones that approached our organization as cousins, since the chapter of phi beta sigma and zeta phi beta did not return to our campus until 2003, 5 years after our chapter of sigma lambda gamma was established...

If one of my sorority sisters decided to start a new sorority, I would feel absolutely no need to affiliate with that group in any way, shape, or form...let alone share my process with them. I would view that group as a completely separate entity that happened to be founded by one of my sisters--period. Further, if said sister was using any of our practices/procedures to establish the new group, I can guarantee she would be shut down pretty darn quick.

lol

I am new to Zeta, but not to her history. I have never heard about SLB/SLG. I feel that if your founder received permission from Nationals, then SLB/SLG would be widely known throughout Zeta and Sigma. There is no need to be ugly towards my Sorors and Brothers cause WE know nothing of your existence. SLB/SLG is not apart of our history. So instead of being disrespectful, you should pay homage to those who came before you, and basically the beginning of "your existence". So if my brother is your father, then you would be our cousins. So lay off the sarcasm because if there are Soror/Frat supporting you, trust me...it's not because they want to be you because I'm sure IF they did...they would have cross-pledged.

Uhh...wouldn't that make them your nieces and nephews? Just sayin'.

Some people recognize FIRM, others don't. As mentioned before, it depends on how you were educated. I am a sister of SLG (a founder at my school) and I was not taught to recognize Sigmas or Zetas as "cuzzos" but when I first wore my letters on campus, my line sisters and I were approached&welcomed by the blue and white family. I don't think people should push the "connection" onto others, if you like the idea of FIRM than that's great. If you don't, that's also great. To each their own! :D

Oh, and this is in response to an old post that said we were up to 26 schools. We are now up to 126 chapters now! :D And that's not including our colonies!