Greeks Advocating Mis Management of Alcohol, right? ;)

Now that's funny.

Kinda like D.A.M.M.=Drunks Against Mad Mothers.

What LXAAlum said along with all of the other posts are exactly right!

I think ALL of The Greek Organizations are professing safe drinking because of Cost Of Risk Management! I know at House Corp. meeting yesterday (Sun) our Insurance went up by 1/3 per man!:(

Some of these pie in the sky programs remind me of the DARE programs in H S.

It sucked. Took Officers off of the streets and put them saying Hi I am Officer Moron, dont do Drugs! DA!

We as Greek Organizations by Chapter need to be more aware of what is going on, use our heads in situations that could and will get out of hand! Handle the situation, difuse it and we all will keep further from the Slime Light of The News!:)

Or Greeks Allocate Much More Alcohol. ;) For our school, GAMMA was just another meeting to go to that kept you in the university's good graces.

Wow! That is strange for me to hear b/c GAMMA is a pretty big thing for us. Every year we ALWAYS participate in these same 4 things. 2 huge events, homecoming and greek week. And then 2 not as huge but still pretty big, GAMMA and RAMS. We placed 2nd in GAMMA last year and won free digital cable for our house for a year! Score! We do a bunch of things for it like lunch bag seminars, a 24 hour walk for alcohol responsibility, and go and listen to a speaker where I always cry my eyes out, among other stuff. Last year the guy who spoke killed his own little brother in a drunk driving crash and this year we heard from a TKE who killed three of his fraternity brothers/best friends in a drunkl driving crash on spring break. And while GAMMA may not prevent greeks from using alcohol obviously it really does try hard to show us the negative things that can happen and it's certainly an eye opener.


OK sorry for going off topic and babbling. :D

I don't see what's different with this org and previous orgs, and regardless of how beneficial it is, to some extent you're sharing the blame which I don't know how I feel about.

-Rudey

Interesting thought, but the fact is that we're already all sharing the blame as you put it, for all of the alcohol and hazing problems. Shedding some of that blame through positive actions and public relations would have to be a good thing.

If this has any success at all, I still can't see the downside.

How are we all sharing the blame? If we're all sharing the blame for everything, you need to take some of the bad stuff we've been involved with too lol

-Rudey

Rudey said:

"How are we all sharing the blame? If we're all sharing the blame for everything, you need to take some of the bad stuff we've been involved with too lol"



Oh, hey! Of course we do! You guys didn't invent this. It's a system wide problem, begun years ago, perpetuated by my era and others and still going on today.

The difference is, as we've said before, the groundrules have changed due to all of the publicity and highly visible law suits.

Don't think that I don't know how hypocritical that can sound, but it's just the unfortunate truth. The spotlight of public opinion is shining directly on today's Greek System.

Which, again, is why I say there's no downside here. The damage is done -- we need to fix it somehow.

I just don't think you're changing the view of your org by forming groups like this. I don't see it one bit. All it does is create further responsibility because you've accepted blame to some extent. Yes you're working to fix the problem, but a) the problem still exists and you won't chip away too much at it without strong changes in American culture and b) the PR image of alcohol is still in the news.

What do I personally think is the way to go? Positive acts that don't just react to bad events. Instead of worrying about how to deal with alcohol abuse, I think it's more worthwhile to have large scale philanthropy events that are covered in the news - like our Rock a Thon in Missouri, for example.

I also think that not all groups commit the same sins or at least get caught for it. I think that each group should solely work on themselves and distance themselves from the idiot because we each have our own problems to deal with.

Sorry while I do like the idea of Greek unity, I'm not willing to accept any Delt problems and I don't think you should be accepting other problems.

-Rudey

Delts don't have any problems, Rudey. Yeah. Right.

Seriously, you are right on target on the positive PR for philantrophy. I've done a number of postings on things related to that.

I guess I don't see this consortium as sharing in a problem, but rather sharing in creating a solution -- including the good PR that goes with it.

OK but honestly how many GLOs do you see in the news for alcohol abuse? Do you see this completely across the spectrum? What you're saying is you'd like others to work on a common problem that isn't common to everyone. I just see it that way for some reason.

-Rudey
--And if attempts were made towards a solution, I just don't see how this will be any different and might be a waste of resources.

Lots of them. And I also see our insurance rates skyrocketing. Read some of other threads in this forum.

Why don't you become an advisor and get some of the Risk Management stuff. I think it will be a shock to you.

By the way, it's good to have a constructive conversation even while disagreeing.

I know what you all are talking about. Edinboro used to and still has a 75 % mandatory system where if the associate members and regular members dont go to these "mandatory drug and alcohol meetings" then one the pledges dont get initated and two the organization goes on probation if enough are missed.

During our homecoming LCB came down and started harassing people because they gave the school $50K for mult jurisdiction in the town.

Most of this stuff does no good when people are forced into it, it needs to be voluntary. I know my nationals is not in on it I am guessing they probably wont be.

I know what you all are talking about. Edinboro used to and still has a 75 % mandatory system where if the associate members and regular members dont go to these "mandatory drug and alcohol meetings" then one the pledges dont get initated and two the organization goes on probation if enough are missed.

During our homecoming LCB came down and started harassing people because they gave the school $50K for mult jurisdiction in the town.

Most of this stuff does no good when people are forced into it, it needs to be voluntary. I know my nationals is not in on it I am guessing they probably wont be.