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Aquastar 07-14-2003 11:15 PM

maroon and lavander hun ...
and yea ... you can IM me at Carapinata
lol things will get straightend out im sure
<3

cristinasmile 07-14-2003 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by SigkapAlumWSU
I think that maybe I am misunderstanding what you are trying to do. Are you trying to start a Sigma Kappa colony? Or are you trying to start a local organization?

I'm confused because you say that you want to use SK history, but for what? The history of your Org is based on what he founders of the org did. Who they were, where they were from, how your org started, those kind of things. Also, maybe how you developed your symbols, colors, motto, anything that you would want your future members to know about how your organization started.

Trying to start a LOCAL sorority. And I was informed how the history forms.

greeklawgirl 07-14-2003 11:18 PM

Ladies, I am very sorry to be crashing your forum, but maybe I can clarify a few things. Cristinasmile, I think some of the confusion is lying in the fact that that you are calling Sigma Kappa Epsilon Pi a local sorority, yet you want to use Sigma Kappa's history, their colors, and new member manual. To many people, that sounds like you are developing an interest group to become a local chapter of Sigma Kappa.

While I'm sure that the Sigma Kappas are very flattered that you admire them so much (after all, who wouldn't be? :)), if you are truly looking to establish a local sorority with no intention of affiliating with any NPC sorority, it is not in good form to appropriate Sigma Kappa's history, colors, mascot, symbols, or ask to use their new member manual.

You are starting on a wonderful new adventure--creating a new local sorority! Why don't you take all the things which you admire about Sigma Kappa and use it as a springboard to create something totally new, different, and unique? Good luck to you in your endeavors! :)

Edited for typos

DigitalAngel126 07-14-2003 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by cristinasmile
Sorry about the colors. Maroon and white.

Honey, I know you mean well, but check it: Lavander and Maroon , K?

cristinasmile 07-14-2003 11:20 PM

I'll get it all straightened out.

lavender and maroon.

DigitalAngel126 07-14-2003 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by greeklawgirl
Ladies, I am very sorry to be crashing your forum, but maybe I can clarify a few things. Cristinasmile, I think some of the confusion is lying in the fact that that you are calling Sigma Kappa Epsilon Pi a local sorority, yet you want to use Sigma Kappa's history, their colors, and new member manual. To many people, that sounds like you are developing an interest group to become a local chapter of Sigma Kappa.

While I'm sure that the Sigma Kappas are very flattered that you admire them so much (after all, who wouldn't be? :)), if you are truly looking to establish a local sorority with intention of affiliating with any NPC sorority, it is not in good form to appropriate Sigma Kappa's history, colors, mascot, symbols, or ask to use their new member manual.

You are starting on a wonderful new adventure--creating a new local sorority! Why don't you take all the things which you admire about Sigma Kappa and use it as a springboard to create something totally new, different, and unique? Good luck to you in your endeavors! :)

*Applause* Well said. Thanks greeklawgirl, I knew you'd pop in. :)

cristinasmile 07-14-2003 11:39 PM

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Originally posted by DigitalAngel126
*Applause* Well said. Thanks greeklawgirl, I knew you'd pop in. :)
My words are being mis intrepreted.

I am trying to create a local chapter.
I was told the history, and stuff comes from those who create it, not already existing from another sorority, like SK.

Aquastar 07-15-2003 01:07 AM

We had a chat ... i think she is unconfused now ... and is on her way to create her own unique womans group at Mt. Ida and shes doing an awesome job getting it all set up :)
<3

DigitalAngel126 07-15-2003 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by Aquastar
i think she is unconfused now<3
Well that makes one of us!! :eek: :confused:

cristinasmile 07-15-2003 09:51 AM

Well... as it stands right now, as of 930 AM on Tuesday..

We are Sigma Kappa Epsilon Pi. The EPi stands for, might change, but in the end we'll be Sigma Kappa and something attached to that.

I'm not so focusing SKEPi as a "sorority" but more of as a "woman's group" regardless if the school will approve of a "sorority".

DigitalAngel126 07-15-2003 10:09 AM

Well I've pin-pointed what it is that I don't get about all of this.

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Originally posted by cristinasmile
We are Sigma Kappa Epsilon Pi. The EPi stands for, might change, but in the end we'll be Sigma Kappa and something attached to that.

I understand using those letters if they were chosen for personal reasons...BUT you've stated in more than post that you are interested in being a LOCAL sorority, woman's group, etc, whatever, with no interest in affiliating...But then you're like ^ (see above). I don't understand the attachment to "Sigma Kappa" if you're not interested in eventually BEING Sig Kap.

cristinasmile 07-15-2003 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by DigitalAngel126
Well I've pin-pointed what it is that I don't get about all of this.



I understand using those letters if they were chosen for personal reasons...BUT you've stated in more than post that you are interested in being a LOCAL sorority, woman's group, etc, whatever, with no interest in affiliating...But then you're like ^ (see above). I don't understand the attachment to "Sigma Kappa" if you're not interested in eventually BEING Sig Kap.

At some point I'm sure the Sisters would want to try and affiliate. But yes I'd like SKEPi to affiliate, but not right now.

PM_Mama00 07-15-2003 11:19 AM

What is special about someone's letters is the meaning behind them. Our founder's did not just up and choose letters. Hell, Phi Mu coulda been Alpha Delta Pi Phi Mu if that's how it is. It may be meaningful for you to choose Sigma Kappa such and such letters, because you admire them. However, just because you read their history DOES NOT mean that you know the meaning behind their letters. The letters Sigma and Kappa were chosen for this particular organization because of a special meaning for the founders, and it carries on through each sister that is INITIATED. I believe Sigma Kappa is similar to Phi Mu and other sororities, in that the true meaning of their letters is revealed in their initiation.

I think it's great that you want to start an organization. However, if you truly wanted to start a social sorority, then you will do anything in your power to do that. If you wanted to start a service sorority, you'd do the same. But you should not keep changing your mind because of what you think the university will accept. That is what is different between you and National founders... they had a dream to do something and they did it.

I'm sure the ladies of Sigma Kappa are flattered, however I can only think that you are, in a way, stealing their letters and ideals.

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There's not a Sigma Kappa Epsilon Pi chapter. Whether we change or name, or keep Sigma Kappa... and add something to it- that will be determined by the group.
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We are Sigma Kappa Epsilon Pi. The EPi stands for, might change, but in the end we'll be Sigma Kappa and something attached to that.
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We'd be the only SKEPi around, which is very special and unique. I really fell into love reading about SK's history and what they stand for.
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I like what Sigma Kappa stands for, etc and represents. Our history may be taken off of Sigma,....
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if I use SK's or Mount Ida's history... or how that is detemined. Same with colors. Our colors are green and white, while SK's are violet and white. Common is white. Does violet, white and green go together? Combing the colors of Mount Ida (white and green) with SK (violet)?
I am sorry but I have to say that if you were doing this with Phi Mu, I would be extremely offended. Especially saying "if I use Phi Mu's or Mount Ida's history...". You cannot use Sigma Kappa's history... their history is their own and unless you become an initiated sister, or your organization becomes officially affiliated with Sigma Kappa... it will always be their own and not yours.

I am sorry to be so blunt and maybe bitchy, but I am possibly saying the things that others don't have the heart to tell you. Sigma Kappa's, I apologize if I am stepping on toes, but one Sigma Kappa told me that she is offended by all this, and I am sure that there are more.


editted to add.... I thought this was in the Chit Chat forum for some reason, I aplogize for crashing your board. On another note... I love Sigma Kappas! Two of my good friends from high school are sisters at different colleges so you girls must be doin something right! :D

cristinasmile 07-15-2003 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by PM_Mama00
What is special about someone's letters is the meaning behind them. Our founder's did not just up and choose letters. Hell, Phi Mu coulda been Alpha Delta Pi Phi Mu if that's how it is. It may be meaningful for you to choose Sigma Kappa such and such letters, because you admire them. However, just because you read their history DOES NOT mean that you know the meaning behind their letters. The letters Sigma and Kappa were chosen for this particular organization because of a special meaning for the founders, and it carries on through each sister that is INITIATED. I believe Sigma Kappa is similar to Phi Mu and other sororities, in that the true meaning of their letters is revealed in their initiation.

I think it's great that you want to start an organization. However, if you truly wanted to start a social sorority, then you will do anything in your power to do that. If you wanted to start a service sorority, you'd do the same. But you should not keep changing your mind because of what you think the university will accept. That is what is different between you and National founders... they had a dream to do something and they did it.

I'm sure the ladies of Sigma Kappa are flattered, however I can only think that you are, in a way, stealing their letters and ideals.











I am sorry but I have to say that if you were doing this with Phi Mu, I would be extremely offended. Especially saying "if I use Phi Mu's or Mount Ida's history...". You cannot use Sigma Kappa's history... their history is their own and unless you become an initiated sister, or your organization becomes officially affiliated with Sigma Kappa... it will always be their own and not yours.

I am sorry to be so blunt and maybe bitchy, but I am possibly saying the things that others don't have the heart to tell you. Sigma Kappa's, I apologize if I am stepping on toes, but one Sigma Kappa told me that she is offended by all this, and I am sure that there are more.


editted to add.... I thought this was in the Chit Chat forum for some reason, I aplogize for crashing your board. On another note... I love Sigma Kappas! Two of my good friends from high school are sisters at different colleges so you girls must be doin something right! :D

I am not "stealing" anyone's ideas!!!

PM_Mama00 07-15-2003 11:51 AM

Yes you are if you are wanting to use Sigma Kappa's history! It's not yours!

I am not tryin to discourage you from starting a sorority. Just listen to what at least one person said on every single one of your threads... choose letters that mean something to you and not because you admire their organization!


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