As far as Bglos are concerned they all have national websites and alot of their chapters have websites also. These different sites are out there for those that are interested to to get basic (what you need to know) information. If there are questions one might have that are not answered on any website or in any book that may be published about each org then one should assume that the answer to such questions are on a need to know basis. If such info is not out there for you to get a hold of then it must be something sacred for the members to know. I mean if we learned EVERYTHING during our research what would be the purpose of them teaching us anything. I do not think that the members of the BGLOS were trying to be mean I think that maybe that just figured one would already know their limitations on what to ask and what they are allowed to know. Thats just my $2.10.

AXO,

You have the right to your own opinion. I make no apologies for my responses because I don't bite my tongue. I did not start out being sarcastic, but simply making an observation about something that was posted.

Since you don't know me, then you don't know how approachable I am. If someone came up to me and asked a question that I could not answer I would be kind to them, flash my smile and dimples and say "I'm sorry. I can't divulge that information, but will tell you what I can." Anyone who has even sent me personal e-mails knows that for a fact.

If you get a different impression of me by my post, then there is nothing I can do about that.

AXO Alum-

I think the reason why some of us get 'irritated' is because a lot of people who are interested in our organizations try to get 'more information' on the internet that they know they wouldn't get from talking to a member in the Student Center (for example).

If a person has asked a question of one of our members before and gotten a nice response saying "it's privelaged" and then ask the exact same questions on the 'net hoping to get more it's just disrespectful in my opinion. (I am referring to interestedGDI's post not any others). Interested said that she has asked someone before, I'm willing to bet they gave her/him the same exact response.

I very rarely give nasty responses when someone asks me a question about Zeta, BGLOs, etc. but sometimes people can be downright rude!! Especially on the net.

ZetaAce

I didn't regard YOU personally as being approachable or not in person. But should it matter? Shouldn't you represent your org. with a "smile" on the net when replying to a question that had no harmful intent? Did I misread the "Happy Now?" in your other post as being a bit on the sarcastic side?

Again I ask How is a person supposed to know what questions not to ask?

ZetaAce -
I posted this on another thread but wanted to copy it here so you'd see it! Thanks for posting this information - you really helped me understand this issue from your viewpoint!
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"Once again I must commend you on your exemplary efforts at replying and
posting with grace and style. Your posts are very educational & informational, and
although we may not always agree on certain topics, you always make me proud to be a
member of the greek system! Just wanted to say thanks!"

Yes, I was being sarcastic with that statement. However, I didn't think my first response was defensive to begin with. In my opinion, if someone has doubts about posing a question to a frat/soror in person, then maybe they shouldn't ask.

Someone hit the nail on the head when they said that if we tell everything now, what is there for them to learn and look forward to when they are initiated? Also, ZetaAce was correct that people use the interenet to get information they know they would not get otherwise.

As I stated before, I make no apologies for being direct.

Not to beat a subject to death, but we ALL need to be carefull about information that is given over the internet. One of the beauties of the internet is that I can say and express anything that I want from the comfort of my home or office, and not have to divulge who I am. Basically you never know who you are talking to on-line. For all you know, I may not be a member of Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Inc. (I am of course), but you don't know.

I know brothers that have been asked secrete informatio by people on-line. We really need to be very carefull about what we say on-line. This is not a swipe at non-greek members (I hate the term GDI), but there is information that really shouldn't be shared with you, or anyone outside of our respective organizations for that matter.

Respectfully,

Manndingo Nupe

AXO,

I think the issue here (as with alot of posts I have read and responded to) is that when people write it is difficult to conclude what type of feelings they had when writing it. I think some people are obviously overly rude and sarcastic. I didn't think AKAtude was. But if she was, perhaps that's her personality. I personally think it is obvious what questions to ask and not to ask. Some people come onto these boards and ask questions they KNOW they shouldn't and try to disguise it as PUR inquisitiveness. "Just a Question...no harm intended but what do your sorority colors mean?" Then they put all these happy faces and stuff to make it seem innocent.

You feel me?

I pesonally feel tis e-mail stuff leaves a lot of miscommunication issues to abound.

Just my $19.13.

Am I going to get sued for sexual harrassment if I say "yes" to the "feel me" part? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif That was just a joke for anyone who may not catch it http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

That part, about the pure & innocent routine, I do wholeheartedly understand. But I just don't see how a person (being non-greek) is supposed to know or not know whether to or not to ask a question (geez...now I've got the lawyer speak going on http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif) I think it is obvious sometimes (such as the "what does your crest mean" kind of thing), but others aren't so obvious (like for me the colors thing because the choosing of our colors is not secret info). The whole point of me even contributing to any of this is I just don't want a non-greek to be turned off (by comments like "happy now?" and other intended sarcastic remarks) and decide to revert to the stereotypical image of greeks (that we're too good for anyone, we're all snotty, etc.) AKAtude even said she was being sarcastic and said this was being direct for her. I just try to speak to people the way I would want to be spoken to, whether on the internet, phone, in person, whatever. But thank you for your comments - you have helped further my understanding of this issue http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

WOW!!! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif I didn't think that I would get such a response to this question. I understood that it was privlaged information because I was told that by Finer Woman10-A-91... can we all forget about it now? I have asked a greek this and they told me in simple terms to "do your research"
so that is what I thought I was doing...

AXO Alum has a good point, how does one know what to ask when they don't know. AKAtude, you are absolutly 100% correct in regards to the classification of that information, BUT you came across kind of COLD http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif No is asking for any apologies, because you were right, but it's not always what you say(type), but how you say(type) it. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

Much LOVE for everyone ALWAYS!

Well said 12dn94dst and ZetaAce http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

Cool...(you know this whole discussion was not about you specifically...it was about the question...glad you understand)

Peace


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Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Incorporated...Every Finer Woman's Dream!

I think there is a misunderstanding. I never asked someone this question, since I don't know anyone in those organizations and there aren't any on my campus. However, if the Internet did not exist as a forum through which to pose this question, and I met someone who was making a call, then I would ask the person the same question, because I would be curious s to what the heck they were doing. After all, how am I to know that the question is a faux-pas? Then if they said, "I'm sorry, but I can't tell you that", then I would respect their response & leave it at that.

It is kind of like when the media ask a lawyer something that is privileged ...the lawyer would just say, "I'm sorry. That is privileged information".

Alsocurious, if you read my first post correctly I attributed that bit of information to InterestedGDI, not you.

Interested GDI and alsoCurious, if you are still interested, email me at rainmain1925@hotmail.com and I will give you basic information. I am not at liberty to discuss GLO specifics, but I will give you enough to wet your appetite. I am not above giving you the basics. Thanx for asking.

Rain Man