I am SO embarassed that I know this, but the name of the movie is "The Initiation of Sarah"

What can I say, I'm a veritable fountain of useless information!

Hey, I'm not embarassed by liking the movie, so you shouldn't be embarassed that you know the title!:D

I wonder if it's available on video? Hmm....

Yep, Anne Rivers Siddons is an Auburn alum. I met someone who was a Tri Delt active when she was and she said that she was surprised that Anne was making fun of the people who follow the unspoken rules because she was one of those people herself. I believe one of the terms she used was "very prissy".

Randolph University is a veeerrrry thinly disguised Auburn. About the only differences are that the Auburn sororities don't have houses and that Auburn didn't have Kappa and Pi Phi (the protagonists' sororities) in the early fifties.

ok explain this one to me. How come in "HH" she used real sororities and got away with it, and she used a fake one (Tri Omega - LOL) in Outer Banks? Does it have anything to do with the fact that in "OB" she talked about the (fake sorority's)initiation ritual?

I think anyone watching Lifetime knows what they're going to get. If it's a movie about marriage, the marriage will crumble when she finds out he's sleeping with crack whores. If it's about the perils of growing up, the daughter is anorexic or bulimic. If it's about that nice new neighbor, you know he's going to turn out to be psycho. It's always worst-case and victim-y. I think viewers know that, and don't expect it to be a realistic portrayal of anything - just the worst case scenario. I mean, if anyone learns their life lessons from Lifetime, they'll never leave their house - so I wouldn't take it too seriously.

Actually, in Heartbreak Hotel she never claimed that Kappa was Kappa Kappa Gamma. It's referred to as "Kappa" consistently throughout the book; the sorority's full name is never mentioned. Those familiar with sororities would know that Kappa is a nickname for KKG, but those who don't know much about GLO's wouldn't -- and I think the fact that she never used the full name keeps her from getting sued or something.

As for Pi Phi, I'm not sure how she got away with using that name. Maybe because they're not central figures in the story? I've found a lot of books that use real GLO names just in passing. And does anyone remember the Sweet Valley University books where they used real GLO names? How did they get away with that?

And yes, I would bet that the initiation ritual is part of why she used a fake name in one but not the other.

James, you're absolutely right. It doesn't bother me that much (nor did the Snapple thing), but if people are that upset, it's the only viable path to do anything. I don't think it was intentional--just weird timing. I figure if someone's that impressionable to think that joining a sorority will lead to a fatal fall from the school's clock tower or a cocaine overdose, do we want them in the first place?

I don't have cable back at school so I can't watch Lifetime... but everything on there seems to be a soap opera to the extreme. But also, I think Lifetime's target audience are women out of college so I don't know how many freshman girls will be tuning in in the dorms. (Our dorms don't get Lifetime either so....:rolleyes: ) No worries here... but "Friends to the End" is kind of a funny story that I happen to catch when I am home for vacations.

Still LMAO on this one, 33.

At first I used to get really offended by these Lifetime-type-movies that bashed Greeks. Now, I can watch them for the comedic stupidity factor.

Yeah, you can read about that episode here:
http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...=&threadid=884

here is the synopsis (thanks to shopgirl):
Here's the quick summary...

Sorority member goes out partying w/ 2 sisters and ends the night at a fraternity house. The 2 sisters leave her there because she's giving one of the guys a lap dance. The next day the girl wakes up in the bushes across campus. At the hospital she finds out she was raped. (She was a virgin.)

During the investigation the cops look at a couple different members of the fraternity and discover that the girl was drugged w/ GHB. Later they find out that the guy (#1) she was giving a lap dance to, is the ex of one of the other girls. The victim had flirted w/ the guy at a party before she knew that he had dated the other sister. Guy #1 has been accused before of rape and has a rep for getting girls drunk then taking them home.

The detectives eventually figure out that the victim had sex w/ 2 different guys that night. Then they discover that it was the 2 sisters that made the GHB and drugged her.
They do this as payback for flirting w/ the guy.

The 2 guys had sex w/ her thinking that she was drunk but clueless to the fact that she was drugged. (Guy #2 didn't know that guy #1 had also slept w/ her that night.)

So both guys and both sisters get charged w/ rape. The guys get off because they didn't know she was drugged and the girls get off because one of them is the daughter of a judge.

The school has their own discipline board and expell all four. The victim is distraught at the end because not only did they all get off; but she hadn't told her parents, and never took the pills the doctor gave her. So she could be pregnant. That's on top of the gonarhea (sp) that guy #1 gave her!!!!

I never noticed that she didn't come out and say "Kappa Kappa Gamma"! :) She does, however, say Pi Beta Phi, Kappa Alpha, Chi Omega, Phi Delta Theta, and Alpha Tau Omega. It seems like she actually says Tri Delta in HH too; she also mentions sororities by real name in other books. As I recall, the heroine nicknamed "Pie" in of one of her books was a Chi O.

Go see About Schmidt!
 

Hey, this is a little off the main topic, but I think it's a nice example of a positive Greek portrayal. If anyone has heard of the movie, "About Schmidt", which came out recently - it is a fantastic dark comedy/drama, and stars Jack Nicholson, who is as always, brilliant - there is a scene where Schmidt(Nicholson), a recently retired 60 something man revisits his college during a road trip, and stops by his old fraternity house. It brings back happy memories to him, and as he leaves he says(quote approximation) "I think that everybody should join a fraternity." I have a feeling that this movie will have much more exposure and a greater impact than any lifetime movie in the next few months, so yay!

Re: Go see About Schmidt!
 

About Schmidt (2002)

Synopsis: Warren Schmidt is a retired insurance salesman, who at age 66, has no particular plans other than to drive around in the motor home his wife insisted they buy. He's not altogether bitter, but not happy either, as everything his wife does annoys him, and he disapproves of the man his daughter is about to marry. When his wife suddenly dies, he sets out to postpone the imminent marriage of his daughter to a man he doesn't like, while coping with discoveries about his late wife and himself in the process.

http://www.hollywood.com/movies/detail/movie/415040

Which sororities did Elizabeth and Jessica end up joining in SVU? I read the books so long ago and I don't remember the names at all.

Unless they made 2 Law and Order episodes with story lines about fraternities/sororities then that episode did air. I believe it was on Law and Order:SVU. I remeber watching the tail end of the episode and the detectives were qiestioning two girls who were wearing greek letter shirts. I didn't see the episode, but it was aired.