Basically, you act like the HDQ and school were at fault! Well get gone!

The basic reason that either would ask a Chapter for the Charter or have sanctioned pulled is because they screwed up! Is that about it!?

LXA has some of the first rules for many things, but we still have Chapters to are being pulled or kicked off Campuses! Why? Well, they screw up because of Tradition!

What in the hell good does that do> NONE!

If Ya Aint There, Then Ya Aint S$#T!

Short term memory is for the young! Gone, but forgotten! Get It?

I dont know about you but I get e-m daily talking about stupidity and death realated things that happen! Is This Good! NO!

You figure it Out!:confused:

You know, I watched a SigEp from Wi-Theta read this post in the SigEp forum, and he was incredibly angry. I don't think hoosier needed to double post it, but he seems to enjoy putting negative articles in more than one forum. :rolleyes: I think SigEp, like every other org, has a few bad chapters. I should know, the one in Dubuque got closed last year. However, again like every other org, they are making their best efforts to change it through BMP. I'm really sick of seeing all these negative comments and articles reposted and reposted. That would have been fine staying in the SPE forum, where, if you go look, many of his brothers told him that what he was saying isn't right.

I don't think it's a specific attack on Sig Ep by posting this. It's not about all of them -- but one of them. It shows that throughout the world of fraternities this is a viewpoint that actually is more commonplace than most of us in 'reformed' chapters would think. Since my chapter is brand new we don't have old traditions involving hazing that hold us back from developing to what we should be. These other chapters do.

It's a problem that effects us all.

I would agree with you there...it's just that hoosier keeps copying stuff out of other forums and it is driving me crazy!

It boils down to membership selection. We have to select members that have the ability to see past the "traditional" ways and be ceative and make new fun/safe tarditions.
My chapter does not and hopefully has the knowhow to NEVER haze!

While I believe there are some people who could honestly afford to get hazed, it shouldn't become a tradition.

Then again the definition of hazing today is set so low there isn't a single house out there that couldn't get sued for hazing every day.

LOL, pinkyphimu!!! EXACTLY what I was thinking!