Read my post carefully, please. "Someone mentioned them later, but not in the initial post. " And not by name.

My bad, I'm just not here right now.

Re: Hey, someone forgot 9 fraternities and sororities!
 

Well, since her question dealt with sororities and fraternities that HAD been on her campus but no longer were -- and all of the Divine Nine are still there -- it wasn't really relevant to the question.

And why wouldn't it be okay to say that it's the biggest Panhel in the world? It's like the Miss Universe pageant -- they're not competing with anybody from Mars or Jupiter, but the winner is still known as "Miss Universe," not "Miss World." :D

Divine Nine?
 

Hi, I have a question as to what you mean when you refer to the "divine nine?"

Thanks

Re: Divine Nine?
 

The Divine Nine are the historically black organizations under the NPHC umbrella:

Alpha Phi Alpha
Kappa Alpha Psi
Omega Psi Phi
Iota Phi Theta
Phi Beta Sigma

Alpha Kappa Alpha
Zeta Phi Beta
Sigma Gamma Rho
Delta Sigma Theta

ZTA
 

A friend of mine from ISU (Illinois State) said Zeta's were once in the delta tau delta house and a bell at the top of their tower still has the letters ZTA on it. It's a big deal cuz they want the bell back!
:)

University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign must have the most exhausting formal recruitment! When do you rush, Fall or Spring? My feet hurt just thinking about those poor pnms walking from house to house to house to house! Wow.
Panhellenic meetings must be quite something as well, there must be lots of opportunity to take on projects and spearhead committees.
You guys are fortunate, it sounds like it would be wonderful to be involved in such a large Greek System.
violets

She's not kidding. I was in urbana last year attending a conference at the Holiday Inn. I visited the Alpha Chi Chapter of Sigma Tau Gamma Fraternity there and let me tell you, it is impressive. It would be great to have that many greek organizations on our campus.:cool:

UIUC rush is pretty tiring! We have recruitment in the fall, right at the beginning of the school year. The first stage is Open House, where you go to all the houses- that alone takes one and a half days! First Invite takes up a day, Second Invite the whole afternoon and evening, and Third Invite (Pref Night) lasts the whole night. The taxation of it all can be hurtful on numbers- lots of girls drop out after Open House, the hardest stage of all. A good recruitment counselor tells her girls to take extensive notes on each house (names of girls, clothes worn, personal opinions, house, what went on, conversation topics) so that she doesn't get them confused. I know more than one girl who had a problem keeping AEPhi, Alpha Phi, AOII, and ADPi straight, just because of their names!

Our size also means that rush can be pretty cutthroat for numbers. Luckily, it also means that almost any girl who rushes will be guaranteed a bid somewhere on campus! It also means a lot of drama between houses and often there is a very cliquey attitude which I could do without. Panhel meetings are also a source for lots of drama and lots of production- while PHC/IFC often get a lot of stuff done on campus (especially philanthropy wise) it's not always fun and games. I'm good friends with our panhel rep and she says meetings can be very stressful!

Totally off the subject...
 

Is Natalie still your panhel rep?

Wow! After reading that impressive line up, I'm sitting here with my mouth open. I cannot even imagine!! :eek: What is house total on your campus? What is the average size of a fraternity/sorority? Is there a wide range in sizes or is everyone pretty much the same?

House total for NPC groups is 145, so most groups are right around that.

Fraternties vary from 20-100, but I would say the majority are around 45-60.

Interestingly enough, a group can change its reputation in one year with one or two good pledge classes.

AST
 

No AST was never at U of I U. We are at U of I Chicago.

DeltaBetaBaby: Yep she is and she's doing a great job!

I have to say that being in a school where Greeks are such a big presence, it's hard to come up with reasons to badmouth the system. Most of the people who rush do it to meet people since it's such a large school, and since PHC recruitment can be tiring, you often easily weed out the girls who are just in it for fun and games, and aren't that dedicated. The size of our system often means it attracts devoted students- most of the fraternities and sororities are full of very bright, hardworking members who manage to get so much accomplished in their years here.