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NinjaPoodle 09-15-2022 04:40 PM

To say that I am heartbroken is an understatement.

NinjaPoodle 09-15-2022 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by navane (Post 2491694)
I recorded the program on DVR last night and just finished watching. I think the documentary did a great job of being transparent, balanced and objective. The director didn't focus only on GLOs. One of the main story lines was the Florida A&M Band hazing death. The director also focused heavily on his own fraternity and his own participation in hazing others. He was truthful and sincere in his efforts.

The part of the film that got me was the adult son of Kristin High bursting into sobs of grief while his aunt was giving a speech about his mom. :(

Do watch the film if you have a chance.

I remember the night it happened. I'm in San Francisco. I got word the same night it happened via the greek grapevine. :(

*winter* 09-15-2022 06:49 PM

I never knew one of those girls who died in the ocean had a child. How absolutely horrific. I also choked up when he was crying at the ceremony.

I hope this wakes people up! This show isn’t even about the “gray areas” of hazing- this is straight up stuff that can kill or seriously injure people. It has no place in any law abiding, values promoting organization.

ASTalumna06 09-15-2022 09:27 PM

I haven't watched it yet, but for anyone like me who only uses the internet and streaming services, you can catch it here: https://www.pbs.org/video/hazing-uiisvk/

Cheerio 09-17-2022 02:20 PM

Thoughful programs such as this one make me glad I subscribe to public television. :D

JonInKC 09-17-2022 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by *winter* (Post 2491727)
I never knew one of those girls who died in the ocean had a child. How absolutely horrific. I also choked up when he was crying at the ceremony.

I hope this wakes people up! This show isn’t even about the “gray areas” of hazing- this is straight up stuff that can kill or seriously injure people. It has no place in any law abiding, values promoting organization.


Seriously, how hard is it to not do something that will cause legal problems or harm someone?

sigtau305 09-18-2022 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2491730)
I haven't watched it yet, but for anyone like me who only uses the internet and streaming services, you can catch it here: https://www.pbs.org/video/hazing-uiisvk/

Thanks for posting this. I hope to check it out sometime this week.

*winter* 12-25-2023 01:44 PM

Bumping cause I just saw this again.

FYI they do mention non Greek hazing, specifically the marching band death at that school in Florida. That was tough to watch, but I’m glad they included it. People always ask why people don’t just walk away when it’s Greek life, but what about a case like that, or athletics, where your main purpose in college and/or funding is tied up in that membership?

He focused pretty heavily on the NPHC process, which, according to Byron Hurt was less about binge drinking and more about activities that defined one’s role as a young man entering manhood. I’ve heard this brought up on GC before- that often men are seeking a “process” more so than women- kind of a baptism by fire. It was interesting to hear the men speak on their process and what it means to become a man and how you’d accomplish that without hazing.

Probably what hit home to me was when he said that if people had to be really honest, they’d have to face the fact that they did a lot of that stuff for nothing- that it didn’t really matter in the end. That’s a tough pill to swallow in life, but I can definitely relate. Some of the hardest things I’ve fought for in the military and professionally, years later, looking back, I’ve felt that same way…even though I would have literally given anything for it in that moment.

It’s probably the most gut level honest thing I’ve ever watched on hazing. It’s really, truly well done.

*winter* 03-01-2025 03:01 PM

FYI it’s free right now on the PBS app.

:( Byron Hurt is speaking not too far from me this weekend but I don’t feel well enough to go


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