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LaneSig 10-28-2020 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2480913)

Thetas who would rather get a root canal than listen to Sheryl Crow.

You take that back right now. I will not have anyone disparaging the Pride of Kennett, Missouri.

Sen's Revenge 10-28-2020 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kdonline (Post 2481331)

Was KΔ HQ right or wrong with their public statements?

I'm still grappling with this.

There is a Republican candidate for an office in Michigan. He's a member of my fraternity. There has been no coverage of him in my fraternity's social media (that I have seen--I could be wrong).

There is also a PAC established by members of my fraternity. They are backing several members who are "progressive" more or less. I don't closely follow the PAC.

The fraternity, especially this administration, makes a huge point to highlight brothers seeking office. But this brother has not received the same level of attention.

I don't support this brother's ambitions and I hope he loses, but fair is fair. I shouldn't have had to find out from a weirdo on GC that my own fraternity brother was seeking office.

LaneSig 10-28-2020 04:47 PM

^^

Unfortunately (in my opinion), the current chief of staff to the president is a member of Sigma Chi; as is the undersecretary for Economic Growth, Energy, and the Environment.

Outside of initially congratulating them on getting those positions, there has been very little to no discussion of either gentlemen on our public or brothers only social media.

33girl 10-28-2020 04:59 PM

It would be pretty blatantly one sided to jump up and down and give a sorority magazine cover to ASA Agatha who gets a spot as Harry Truman’s Secretary of State, and then a few decades later contain ASA Audrey’s nomination as Richard Nixon’s new VP to a tiny blurb in the “alumnae news” section beside the alumna who achieved regional fame with her bakery that sells cookies shaped like musical instruments.

You’re basically saying that you only want members with a certain belief. It’s as bad as expecting collegiate chapters of varying sizes to compete against each other and always reprimanding the smaller chapters - even if they are the exact same size as other chapters on their campus.

Either give everyone the same coverage, or decide that anything even vaguely political is just too touchy of a subject to mention at all.

Cheerio 10-28-2020 05:42 PM

Some "famous" or distinguished persons prefer no special or congratulatory recognition of any kind despite their position/title in life. I like the idea of a greek org headquarters asking their "famous" greek members whether they would prefer NOT to be mentioned by their organization in any congratulatory manner.

As an example, our local high school names multiple "famous" former graduates to a special Milestone Members list, and invites them to their own awards dinner, every year. To even nominate a former grad for this award, you must have their signed permission to enter their name to be considered for the recognition. Granted, being recognized by your former HS for winning a Tony Award isn't quite the same as winning a Tony Award. But some "famous" people are bigger sports about their fame than others, and everyone has their right to privacy.

kdonline 10-28-2020 08:05 PM

And now, let’s take a look at the Girl Scouts of America, who just retracted a tweet recognizing ACB..
I guess they didn’t see the PR debacle that KΔ is experiencing.

Kevin 10-28-2020 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sen's Revenge (Post 2481336)
I'm still grappling with this.

There is a Republican candidate for an office in Michigan. He's a member of my fraternity. There has been no coverage of him in my fraternity's social media (that I have seen--I could be wrong).

There is also a PAC established by members of my fraternity. They are backing several members who are "progressive" more or less. I don't closely follow the PAC.

The fraternity, especially this administration, makes a huge point to highlight brothers seeking office. But this brother has not received the same level of attention.

I don't support this brother's ambitions and I hope he loses, but fair is fair. I shouldn't have had to find out from a weirdo on GC that my own fraternity brother was seeking office.

For what it's worth, the same guy showed me I have a Sigma Nu brother running in Montana. I also hope he loses and I don't have to know anything about him other than he's an (R) this year. And my organization probably tends to skew (R) more than not.

And there's absolutely nothing wrong with individal members forming a PAC so long as it is not the fraternity itself.

That said, I really hope Greek organizations do a better job in the future at steering clear of politics. Those of us in the housing business are still looking for tax reform making donations to our house corps deductible. That should be a bipartisan issue.

Cheerio 10-28-2020 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2481345)
That said, I really hope Greek organizations do a better job in the future at steering clear of politics. Those of us in the housing business are still looking for tax reform making donations to our house corps deductible. That should be a bipartisan issue.

It's more money for the lobbyists to NOT have the issue settled by congress in the Greek organizations favor. I for one stopped giving unrestricted funds to my org just so those funds could not continue to be wasted decade upon decade in the futile attempt at house corp donation tax reform.



(end lane swerve)

carnation 10-29-2020 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kdonline (Post 2481343)
And now, let’s take a look at the Girl Scouts of America, who just retracted a tweet recognizing ACB..
I guess they didn’t see the PR debacle that KΔ is experiencing.

I just saw that. I have been a Scout for over 50 years. End of support.

Benzgirl 10-29-2020 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2481345)
For what it's worth, the same guy showed me I have a Sigma Nu brother running in Montana. I also hope he loses and I don't have to know anything about him other than he's an (R) this year.

The way I feel about Kelly Loeffler except I know so much about her that I have nothing nice to say about her.

Shellfish 10-29-2020 02:11 PM

My alma mater is, unfortunately, the same as Trump's. If anyone else were the first president from our school, there would be banners announcing that flying over the campus, but there hasn't been any public acknowledgment. The alumni magazine hasn't published any articles about him, mostly short ones by faculty on his policies and their effects. There was a war in the letters section for a while in 2017--some, mostly older, alumni thought it was wrong not to cover him and were angry about it, but some were unhappy that he was elected.

I think that Penn can get away with doing nothing because probably most alumni, faculty, and students are not Trump supporters, but KD is in a bind because there are many sisters on all points of the political spectrum, and it's tough not to acknowledge what is a huge honor for a sister, especially for an organization that encourages women's accomplishments. I thought that the initial post walked that line, for what it's worth.

Cheerio 10-29-2020 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2480903)
People were offended even though it was made clear that it didn't indicate support? What a bunch of loser snowflakes...

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Originally Posted by kdonline (Post 2481331)
This SCOTUS issue has divided the KΔ sisterhood, that’s for sure. Many on both sides are claiming they’ll turn in their pins or never donate again...

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2481332)
If I had turned in my pin the first time I encountered a sister whose values were different from mine and contradictory to what I expected of an ASA, I would have stopped being Greek around the time Bush the Elder took office. I absolutely fail to see how grown adults with decades of sorority membership can behave in this manner.

IMO the panic of the pandemic and the stress of the political times have people losing perspective on what really matters in life. People need to remember to take a breath.

Amy being nominated doesn't make the situation All About You, it's All About Her. Belonging to the same sorority doesn't mean each member of the sorority is exactly like Amy in thought, word and deed.

Differences between people can be celebrated. Just think of all the U.S. citizens who think/act like Amy who are now finally represented by her membership to the Supreme Court.

Shellfish 10-29-2020 03:20 PM

"Finally"???

bevinpiphi 10-29-2020 06:44 PM

What views of hers aren’t currently represented?

ASTalumna06 10-29-2020 09:48 PM

Kappa Delta posted earlier today a message on Facebook (and perhaps other social media platforms?) saying, "You haven't heard from us much lately. We'd like to tell you why..." and continues on from there.

The comments seem to be a mixed bag of sisters either doubling down on how KD f'd up or saying they're looking forward to seeing how the organization can do better.

Meanwhile, a post from late July is flagged at the top of the page and introduces the Diversity and Inclusion Committee. Everyone clearly jumped in there and talked about the irony and hypocritical nature of creating such a committee and then not supporting a sister on an accomplishment because of her beliefs, values, religion, politics, etc.

Yikes.


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