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AGDee 09-30-2017 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DTD Alum (Post 2443397)
Yes. They can all say it. They're all black.

Just like how my sister-in-law will say, "Going out with my bitches tonight!". Vulgar, sure, but it's an expression of camaraderie and reclaiming a derogatory word. But if I, as a man, ask her "are you going out with your bitches tonight?" she'll be offended, for obvious reasons.

Or if a country boy says, "let's go out tonight, redneck style!". But if a California city guy like me says, "man you're acting like real rednecks tonight!", even in a positive tone, they're going to be offended, for obvious reasons.

It's really not that complicated.

I hate when women call each other that as an expression of camaraderie. It makes me cringe and I am offended by it. I don't like the current trend of people using derogatory terms for their own group and saying it's ok because they are addressing their own cultural group. I don't think it's ever ok to use those terms.

DTD Alum 09-30-2017 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 2443523)
I don't like the current trend of people using derogatory terms for their own group and saying it's ok because they are addressing their own cultural group. I don't think it's ever ok to use those terms.

White people: create a racist slang term.

Black people: re-appropriate it positively as a term of endearment.

White people: it's not OK for you to use that word, it's vulgar.

AGDee 09-30-2017 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DTD Alum (Post 2443525)
White people: create a racist slang term.

Black people: re-appropriate it positively as a term of endearment.

White people: it's not OK for you to use that word, it's vulgar.

My point was:
Men: create a misogynistic term
Women: re-appropriate it positively as a term of endearment
This woman: Still says it's not ok to use that word, it's vulgar

This is a trend across all areas of society that I don't like.

DTD Alum 09-30-2017 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 2443526)
My point was:
Men: create a misogynistic term
Women: re-appropriate it positively as a term of endearment
This woman: Still says it's not ok to use that word, it's vulgar

This is a trend across all areas of society that I don't like.

Totally get that aspect of it. And as a woman, you should have a ton of say about how you believe other women should use it, because it's a choice you're making about a negative slur about a part of you.

My understanding and what I was trying to get at with that example there, is that every black person I've ever known feels that it's not for white people to decide whether or not they should use that word positively, negatively, or at all, especially since we created it. And since there are black people all over the spectrum on whether it should be used or not, I'm going to leave it up to them to decide how to use their word and respect the answers they come up with as a community.

All I know as a white man is that I shouldn't be saying it.


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